questions about King's X

Did Kings X invent grunge according to Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam? If they did and were a grunge band I think ultmetal would hate them Prove me if I am wrong but I think either Green River or Malfunkshan invented grunge but I could wrong but the fiorst album OOTSP came out in 1988 but Soundgarden's first EP came out a year before. Also whats the best album in the post Dogman era? are they still around and whats the latest update from them

- King's X invented Grunge the way Black Sabbath invented Doom...by not being it but doing something at the time that nobody else was doing and inspiring other bands causing it to come about llater when other bands took elements of their sound and expanded on them...

- Soundgarden is not Grunge

- Best post-Dogman would be Ogre Tones, IMO

- they are still around and working on a new album, Ty just released a new solo album in March

Yes, you should buy every King's X album. Wait, what was the question?

TheNazgul wrote:

Yes, you should buy every King's X album.

And all the Pinnick/Tabor/Gaskill solo albums, and Poundhound, and Platypus, and Supershine, and RAZR13, and all Molken Music releases, and go to every show within 500 miles, and tell all your friends, and.....

UNCLE SAXON wrote:

TheNazgul wrote:

Yes, you should buy every King's X album.

And all the Pinnick/Tabor/Gaskill solo albums, and Poundhound, and Platypus, and Supershine, and RAZR13, and all Molken Music releases, and go to every show within 500 miles, and tell all your friends, and.....

I concur!

They seemed grungy to me. (I love grunge though.)

King's X are not grunge. Give me a break! They were doing something that no one else was doing with those layered Beatle-esque vocals, fat guitar tones, massive grooves, killer guitar solos, soulful lead vox, etc. King's X sound nothing like the hordes of grunge clones from the 1990's. Soundgarden's first album wasn't grunge either.

Best post-Dogman album? Hard to choose, I really love Ear Candy, but Ogre Tones or XV are awesome as well.

Don't forget Jelly Jam.

When can we go off topic and bash Pearl Jam?

I love King's X.

I'd say post-"Dogman", "Ogre Tones" is their best too.

Though my favorite King's X albums will always be those first two (Out of the Silent Planet and Gretchen Goes to Nebraska).

King's X is not even close to grunge. That's ridiculous. Whoever made that up isn't very smart.


And Soundgarden is grunge. But King's X aint.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

When can we go off topic and bash Pearl Jam?

Start whenever you're ready.

nevermore wrote:

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

When can we go off topic and bash Pearl Jam?

Start whenever you're ready.

Pearl Jam is actually one of the better grunge bands out there. Them and Nirvana deserved the recognition they both got.

On the other hand, I always hated Soundgarden. They were so overrated. Riding on the coattails of Pearl Jam and Nirvana the way they did. Bzzzzt. Pass.

Jeff Ament's comment, if I remember actually went something like "Heavy music wasn't born in Seattle...it was born in Katy, TX"...

The most grunge I've ever heard in King's X is in Complain, and that's only because the chorus borrows a vocal line from some Alice in Chains song.

I love King's X. I hate grunge. The two statements are NOT contradictory.

Journalists invented grunge. It's a term for an era of popular music, not a musical style.

Eyesore wrote:

Journalists invented grunge. It's a term for an era of popular music, not a musical style.

No more calls, please. We have our winner.

Eyesore wrote:

Journalists invented grunge. It's a term for an era of popular music, not a musical style.

I agree 100%.

Favorite post-Dogman album?

3 way tie:

Manic Moonlight (underrated as hell)
Ogre Tones
XV

I will also say that King's X has a lot of music that is very much like the stuff we saw with the "grunge" movement. Yes, their melodies and such are not the same, but there's enough music there to warrant comparison.

detuned wrote:

Manic Moonlight (underrated as hell)

Aren't most of the King's X albums underrated?

ultmetal wrote:

detuned wrote:

Manic Moonlight (underrated as hell)

Aren't most of the King's X albums underrated?

True, but that one seems to be underrated even by King's X fans.

Eyesore wrote:

Journalists invented grunge. It's a term for an era of popular music, not a musical style.

Thank you, Eyesore, I agree with this statement!

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King's X are not grunge

Thank god cuz if that were the case id have some cds id have to burn, not to mention i thought i was gonna hurl

HamburgerBoy wrote:

The most grunge I've ever heard in King's X is in Complain, and that's only because the chorus borrows a vocal line from some Alice in Chains song.

King's X has never borrowed anything at all from AIC...AIC, however, has borrowed heavily from King's X...and they admit as much.

S wrote:

- King's X invented Grunge the way Black Sabbath invented Doom...by not being it but doing something at the time that nobody else was doing and inspiring other bands causing it to come about llater when other bands took elements of their sound and expanded on them...

- Soundgarden is not Grunge

- Best post-Dogman would be Ogre Tones, IMO

- they are still around and working on a new album, Ty just released a new solo album in March

Very well spoken!