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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 4:10 pm

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Hate to break it but Liv is a fake studio voice Sad Although she sounds very... toned on the COF piece.

I must disagree with you because when I saw Leaves' Eyes live she sounded even better than she does in the studio (her voice is fuller and not-as Toho puts it-thin and reedy).
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 4:19 pm

They layer is 30+ times in the studio to make her sound better and live she has no breathing technique and her voice is flat and weak. That's just my account I guess and I've seen the performances at MFVF, Wacken etc. too
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 5:08 pm

Somethings things are quite different live. She sounded about the same to me, but when I saw Rhapsody live, Fabio was at least twice as good sounding as on record, there was none of the compression and the overwhelming midrange heard on the Rhapsody stuff..
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 5:11 pm

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They layer is 30+ times in the studio to make her sound better and live she has no breathing technique and her voice is flat and weak. That's just my account I guess and I've seen the performances at MFVF, Wacken etc. too

That is your opinion and you're intitled to it but I don't think you're right (about her live not in the studio-almost all vocalists pretty up their voice in the studio). In my experience (and the experience of many others) she sounds great live and her almost 15 year career speaks for itself IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 8:01 pm

DallasBlack wrote:
ChaliceOfFemmeMetal wrote:
Hate to break it but Liv is a fake studio voice Sad Although she sounds very... toned on the COF piece.

I must disagree with you because when I saw Leaves' Eyes live she sounded even better than she does in the studio (her voice is fuller and not-as Toho puts it-thin and reedy).

Wow. My critique has been quoted. I'm honored. Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Lol

BTW, I still stand by that assessment.

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 10:52 pm

ChaliceOfFemmeMetal wrote:
Hate to break it but Liv is a fake studio voice Sad Although she sounds very... toned on the COF piece.


I saw Leaves' Eyes live a few years ago - and they were AWESOME! Liv has a great voice! She's one of the best!


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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2009 10:53 pm

DallasBlack wrote:
ChaliceOfFemmeMetal wrote:
Hate to break it but Liv is a fake studio voice Sad Although she sounds very... toned on the COF piece.

I must disagree with you because when I saw Leaves' Eyes live she sounded even better than she does in the studio (her voice is fuller and not-as Toho puts it-thin and reedy).


Same here. She sounded even better live IMO!


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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 6:05 am

tohostudios wrote:
DallasBlack wrote:
ChaliceOfFemmeMetal wrote:
Hate to break it but Liv is a fake studio voice Sad Although she sounds very... toned on the COF piece.

I must disagree with you because when I saw Leaves' Eyes live she sounded even better than she does in the studio (her voice is fuller and not-as Toho puts it-thin and reedy).

Wow. My critique has been quoted. I'm honored. Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Lol

BTW, I still stand by that assessment.

Ahhhhh! Your just picky! Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz But seriously her voice is really not that high live but I can understand your dislike (although I've heard even higher female voices than that-and I didn't like it at all-i.e. the female voices on TSO-Child Of The Night from Night Castle).
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:06 pm

I'm a huge Liv Kristine fanboy. I can't help it. I go goo-goo gah gah when I hear her.

When I saw her live she even grabbed my hand from the stage. I never wanted to wash it again.


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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:08 pm

Here's how I go when I hear her:

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:09 pm

You are aware her husband is the terrible harsh vocals guy who used to front Atrocity? I would definitely wash my hands knowing that tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:10 pm

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Here's how I go when I hear her:

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:11 pm

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
You are aware her husband is the terrible harsh vocals guy who used to front Atrocity? I would definitely wash my hands knowing that tbh.


Dude, I talked with Alexander Krull for a very long time. He's awesome! One of the nicest people I've met in metal.

I am joking about Liv. Even my wife laughs about me little 'crush' on her. It's just a joke.

She is hot though, I won't lie.
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:13 pm

Metallic Blaze wrote:
tohostudios wrote:
Here's how I go when I hear her:

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To be fair, Liv is far from the only reason for my disdain of Leaves' Eyes.

For me, there's also too much growling and the songs are just unmemorable.

I just like to rag on Liv's vocals because it pisses some people off. Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:13 pm

Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz Fair enough but his harsh stuff still really needs to go..sounded better in his old band.....
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:14 pm

I'll give that she was listenable in ToT. I just find Leaves' Eyes to be completely disposable music in every aspect... Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:15 pm

I love the harsh vocals of Leaves' Eyes. It gives them their unique sound. Without them, they wouldn't be nearly as good to me.

To each their own though ...
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Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
I'll give that she was listenable in ToT. I just find Leaves' Eyes to be completely disposable music in every aspect... Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz

I agree, ToT was much more listenable to me although since I've tired of this whole style, I recently sold those discs as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:17 pm

Yeah, you sold em to ME! Hahaha! I like em quite well too.

However, I like Leaves' Eyes much better than Theatre of Tragedy. It's no comparison really.
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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:18 pm

As you said, to each their own.

That whole "beauty and beast" style is so played out with me. Just not at all in my aural wheelhouse anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2009 7:19 pm

The blend is always cool, I just don't think he's any good at..the thingy he does with the band...same with the guy from Lacuna Coil....
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I just like to rag on Liv's vocals because it pisses some people off. Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz

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PostSubject: Re: Cradle Of Filth   Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 17, 2009 12:20 pm

tohostudios wrote:
Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
I'll give that she was listenable in ToT. I just find Leaves' Eyes to be completely disposable music in every aspect... Cradle Of Filth - Page 2 Icon_razz

I agree, ToT was much more listenable.

I completly agree with the above statements.
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