Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:29 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
thejokeriv wrote:
What about all the baby makin' song by KISS? Makin' Love, Uh! All Night, Deuce, etc, etc........
Tha ladies don't like KISS. They like Barry White.
Ooooohhhh baby.
His voice is sooooo smooth...... smooth like Billy D.
metalinmyveins Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:46 pm
Troublezone wrote:
There is a difference between these so called artists getting inducted into this "Rock" hall of fame and real rock bands that are long over due. When you are reaching to the furthest outskirts from under the so called rock umbrella and ignoring the true rock bands that define the genre there is a problem.
Therein lies the problem. I don't mind acts/performers/singers like Donna Summer, in fact I like her, and have enjoyed her contribution to the industry. That being said, I will be very upset if someone like the Stooges or KISS doesn't end up in the R.R.H.O.F. from this current ballot. I would like to think that there was more of an onus placed on that of the committee regarding the noticeable contributions of all the bands that James Hetfield mentioned at the last awards ceremony. The committee over the years seem to have their own narrow minded musical utopian view, which is peppered with nothing but Top 40 music. Though I know this type of thought will reign supreme within this committee, and future committee's, I hope that the majority of those members have the foresight to see the contributions of Deep Purple, Rush, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Ted Nugent & so on...
metalinmyveins Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:49 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
metalinmyveins wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
Don't forget "Love To Love Ya Baby." GAWD that song should be in every porn film.
...a song that Donna hasn't performed for years, due to her "Born Again" status, I believe.
True, but I'd bet that song is responsible for almost as many baby conceptions as "The Best of Barry White."
Don't forget about Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing"
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:01 pm
Good point metalinmyveins, and I have no problem with non rock acts, such as Donna Summer, Abba, or even Madonna getting into the hall, and I personally believe their contributions to the music industry warrant their inconclusion into the hall.
The snobbery left over in regards to heavy metal/hard rock by some of these critics such as Dave Marsh and the rest is incredible and incredibly short sighted.
A lot of these bands that were once hated are now even lauded by the same magazine and critics that called them sh!t in their heyday. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, , Van Halen, Aerosmith and even AC/DC have now been championed by Rolling Stone magazine for example, but back in the 70's and 80's that was not the case.
Critics have taken a second and third look at other bands from that period such as Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Rush, Ted Nugent, and Judas Priest are being praised by critics and mainstream press.
I am almost sure that KISS will make it into the Hall, even if you are not a fan one cannot deny the impact that has made.
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:23 am
The nominees were announced. Is anyone surprised that KISS didn't make it?
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:05 pm
Cool that Genesis got in...now they need to get ALL of Genesis on stage and perform "The Carpet Crawlers"...but they'll probably just do "I Can't Dance" and "Illegal Alien"...haha!
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:08 pm
I think all the bands that got in deserve it, Genesis, Iggy Pop, The Hollie and Abba, but the fact that Judas Priest, Motorhead, Jethro Tull, Alice Cooper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and Deep Purple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have not been nominated speaks volumes about this brain dead snobs.
JBall_Z Metal master
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:09 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
The nominees were announced. Is anyone surprised that KISS didn't make it?
Surprised? No. Disappointed? Yeah, a little bit. Maybe next year. Hopefully, we'll see Alice Cooper on the ballot next year too. How in the world can the RNRHOF ignore his contributions to Rock? It's a shame really.
sheets Metal master
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:15 pm
I got a kick out of Benny from ABBA's response: "I didn't think this would happen, because we were a pop band, not a rock band."
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:21 pm
sheets wrote:
I got a kick out of Benny from ABBA's response: "I didn't think this would happen, because we were a pop band, not a rock band."
LOL!!!! That is great!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:36 pm
ABBA in, KISS out. Now that's rock and roll!
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:50 pm
OK, so lemme know if I got this straight now... ABBA is a rock band, and Jethro Tull is a metal band.
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:02 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
OK, so lemme know if I got this straight now... ABBA is a rock band, and Jethro Tull is a metal band.
Yup. And the Ramones were a boy band assembled by Lou Pearlman.
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:33 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Yup. And the Ramones were a boy band assembled by Lou Pearlman.
(Fingers in ears) LALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEEEEEAR YOUUUUUU! LALALALALALALA!!!
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:53 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
OK, so lemme know if I got this straight now... ABBA is a rock band, and Jethro Tull is a metal band.
Yup. And the Ramones were a boy band assembled by Lou Pearlman.
Sadly I can see the New Kids on the Block making it into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame befoe Alice Cooper, Deep Purple and KISS.
Dave the Boss Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:25 pm
sheets wrote:
I got a kick out of Benny from ABBA's response: "I didn't think this would happen, because we were a pop band, not a rock band."
Hahaha, that's great! But honestly, who gives a crap about the R&R Hall of Fame. It's just a bunch of pseudo-intellectual douchebag "journalists" giving credit to their favorite artists.
rattpoison Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:22 am
sheets wrote:
I got a kick out of Benny from ABBA's response: "I didn't think this would happen, because we were a pop band, not a rock band."
Ah Benny's just being modest of ABBA's rock cred. Throw these songs on a side from a late 70's Angel, Kiss or Sweet record and nobody would raise an eyebrow.........
ABBA deserve every accolade that comes their way, god bless their socks!
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:51 am
Rattpoison, nobody is denying Abba's influence and their talent. Even if you hate Abba you can't deny their impact on popular culture, what I object about this so called Hall of Fame, is that in most cases it seems to be more about musical snobbery then actually considering bands that have made some lasting impact.
I like the Hollies but you cannot tell me that they have made a bigger impact than say Deep Purple or Judas Priest for example.
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:58 am
manny wrote:
Rattpoison, nobody is denying Abba's influence and their talent. Even if you hate Abba you can't deny their impact on popular culture, what I object about this so called Hall of Fame, is that in most cases it seems to be more about musical snobbery then actually considering bands that have made some lasting impact.
I like the Hollies but you cannot tell me that they have made a bigger impact than say Deep Purple or Judas Priest for example.
Bingo!!!!!! Many of the most influential bands have been missing - it's just the elitist, snobby critics wet dream come true.
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:57 pm
I have grown to respect Eddie "I am Friends with Ace" over the past couple of years and I have to agree with this rant from his webpage:
12/15/09: My rage this morning is beyond belief! Why I care so much I don't know? Maybe because I am a music fan my whole life and have always fought for the bands I love to get the respect (and airplay) they deserve. The R&R Hall Of Shame as I have called it has really lived up to that billing lately, but maybe never more so than what was revealed this morning. You see after being IGNORED for 10 years and not even being on the ballot, someone at the Hall voting group woke up this year and realized there was a band called KISS, that love them or hate them was one of the biggest bands in the world and influenced millions and sold millions of albums. Finally after being ignored for a decade, they were on the ballot, something many thought they would never see. Surely they would be a shoe in now that they made the ballot right? Well the R&R Hall Of SHAME gave us Kiss fans and the band themselves the ultimate diss when they did NOT induct them this year. This is mind blowing and insulting as not only a Kiss fan, but a music fan. This ox manur elitist group of idiots has gone way to far this time. Can you imagine looking over the list of people that they are putting in and saying they deserve it more than KISS?!?!? So offensive and clueless its really mind blowing! The people that vote on this are the same people that probably made fun of me for being a Kiss fan and tried to beat me up after school. I'm stunned, but I shouldn't be. Really, consider these jerkoffs where the same people that made Van Halen wait until it was two former members that were on stage in the debacle overdue induction. The same people that made Sabbath wait so long that Ozzy said take me off the ballot at one point. SABBATH, who invented a genre! Even when they get it right they Smurf it up and are so disrespectful at the end of the day to these artists and hard music. This one is the ULTIMATE disses in a long line of them. I realize this post is probably filled with grammar and misspelled stuff (and curses), but I am in such a rage a can't be bothered. You get the idea! Gee I wonder why the NYC spot they opened for the Hall just closed? Can't wait to see the ratings for the TV broadcast on Fuse. Mark my words, they will be AWFUL! Good luck to them. Makes me sick. Someone needs to wake the Smurf up and as rock fans we must ignore and not support in any way this Hall or what they do until they get it right! When James Hetfield stood on stage and was inducted he made a plea in his speach to have some real rock bands long ignored finally recognized. Something that was super cool, ballsy and truthful. Well I guess these idiots won't even listen to their own inductees! Disgusting!! Again, this Kiss insult is the ulitimate diss to the band and it's fans, but it is not the only one. ALICE COOPER, RUSH, JUDAS PRIEST, THIN LIZZY, IRON MAIDEN, DIO, DEF LEPPARD, NEVER ON THE BALLOT OVER TEN YEARS ELIGIBLE. In the non metal world where is Boston, Yes, Chicago, Bon Jovi, the list goes on and on. If I were Kiss I'd pull a Sex Pistols and not show up and not give them one item to put in the Hall after this. Who needs them? Time for the artists and fans to take some control over this ongoing incredible injustice. Artists who are in have told me privately it's a crock of smurf poo! Everyone knows I am a life long Kiss fan and supporter of all eras, and even though I am not a fan of the band using Ace and Peter makeup on Tommy and Eric, in my heart I will always be a Kiss fan. Most people don't agree or love everything their favorite groups do, especially when they have been around almost 40 years! But you don't have to be a die hard or a Kiss fan at all to see how absurd this is. I have been so vocal about it for years on radio and TV and I will not stop. But if I'm Kiss, or any of the legends dissed by these assholes, when the time does come, and they need YOUR FANS to spend their money to keep this thing interesting, and finally annoint you into their little club I'd tell them to go to hell! Enough is enough. More to come on this as I have some ideas. But I urge all real rock fans to boycott the R&R Hall Of SHAME and I hope some of the artists do as well. When Metallica was nice enough to fly me to their induction this year I attended out of respect to them, but I did not step foot in the actual Hall. One more thing, I know there are tons of artists totally deserving in the Hall. This is not about or against them. But when a band like Kiss is ignored for 10 years, then does NOT go in when they finally get on, AND you consider who is in, IT IS A JOKE!
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:02 pm
Woo... don't piss off Eddie Trunk. He'll lead the combined forces of the KISS Army and Ace Frehley's Rock Soldiers to your doorstep with pitchforks, torches and flaming guitars.
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thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:19 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
Woo... don't piss off Eddie Trunk. He'll lead the combined forces of the KISS Army and Ace Frehley's Rock Soldiers to your doorstep with pitchforks, torches and flaming guitars.
LMAO!!!!!!!
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:06 pm
Eddie is just waking up to this?
Duh!
Next thing you know, he's gonna realize that the Grammys are a joke too. Whodathunk it?
metalinmyveins Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm
I was wondering what Eddie Trunk's thoughts would be on KISS not being elected into the R&R HOF, so Manny, thanks for posting. Eddie's feelings are dead on, regarding his thoughts on this latest travesty.....Now if Eddie only knew how to break up his cogent thoughts into something called PARAGRAPHS. Wow, when it comes right down to it, I can live with misspelled words and syntax errors, but I could barely get through what must have been the longest paragraph in human history. I think I have a headache now, so I will retreat to the medicine cabinet.
snooloui Metal master
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Subject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:51 pm
I think he basically repeated the same 5 lines over and over.
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