Biggest metal album failures

manny wrote:

'Densmore is under the grip of Catholic morality and while recognizing it is unable to vanquish it '

Actually, that's a paraphrase of one of the themes of his book. He talks about it especially regarding sex.

The only album on that list I was familar with was 'The Black Album'.... a fail??? Before that when did anything HEAVY get played on the radio???

I didn't say FAST I said HEAVY.... The first time I heard Sad But True on FM radio I couldn't believe what I was hearing.... SF Bay Area radio is notoriously crappy so when I heard this.... I thought????? WTH?????

I say Diabolus in Musica because I think the guitar tone sucks, the vocals are weak, the drumming is weak and the songs just don't do anything. I seriously think it sounds like Korn to a point. The worst album the have ever made! I used to be a Slayer FREAK! My high school days were filled with Slayer. I am hoping this next record will sound like Slayer should sound again and from the 2 tracks that are released, I think it will. But Diabolus In Musica is complete garbage!

Just another person with an opinion trying to tell the world that he is right. I disagree with Divine Intervention as a failure and the s/t Metallica album was commercial but still acceptable and opened doors for radio playing more metal.

I went back and read the original list, the guy is a moron. I can think of much worse "Fails" than the ones listed.

for instance...

I always liked Savatages Fight For the Rock.I dont see why so many people hate that album.Theatre of Pain is another.Sure they went with more of a glam look but theres still some great songs on there,for instance Keep Your Eye on the Money.

My vote for biggest metal album failure would be Helloween's CHAMELEON. Geez, what the hell were they thinkin'?

My vote for the biggest failure in metal would be this album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5YBuV_8bmk

Lurideath wrote:

Well I would have expected to see albums more like

Metallica - St Anger
Megadeth - Risk
Iron Maiden - X Factor
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI
Slayer - Diabolus In Musica
Anthrax - Volume 8

Just to name a few.

I thought that those 2 maiden albums and the slayer one weren't all that bad. Sure, they were not as good as previous release but certainly not crap.
still don't get why the black album and Load are classed as fails. both very good albums.

Even these albums are decent and not failures.

I have only heard Obituary from that lilst, but I don't think it is all that bad.

I will throw in
Loudness - Heavy Metal Hippies

I know Ult has found some redeeming qualities in that album. But I find it completely unlistenable and not worthy of being in the Loudness catalog. Akira should have released that as a solo album.

I actually like Iron Maiden's No Prayer for the Dying but it would be near the bottom of my list if I were ranking the Iron Maiden discography.

Motley Crue-Theater of Pain-I used to really think this album was a bit of dog, but it has grown on me over the years.

Never heard that Fastway album but that Savatage album is horrid.

I think overall, Masterpeace by Metal Church was a big failure considering the talent they had.

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that Savatage album is horrid.

I'm one of the few that likes it. Sure it's a commercial departure for them but it's still good and belongs toward the bottom of the list like you said about the Maiden album.

You could be right about that Savatage album, I have not listened to that album in years, my view maybe different if I heard it today, but at the time I remember being horrified and wonder what happened to my band!

manny wrote:

You could be right about that Savatage album, I have not listened to that album in years, my view maybe different if I heard it today, but at the time I remember being horrified and wonder what happened to my band!

You would have to listen to it in a more laid back mood to appreciate it because it is more mellow.

Troublezone wrote:

You would have to listen to it in a more laid back mood to appreciate it because it is more mellow.

= it sucks.

manny wrote:

You could be right about that Savatage album, I have not listened to that album in years, my view maybe different if I heard it today, but at the time I remember being horrified and wonder what happened to my band!

I can't bring myself to out-and-out HATE anything by Savatage, but FIGHT FOR THE ROCK is definitely at the bottom of the pile. But since I'm a fanboy there are still a few songs on it that I can say I like.

SpectreFate wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

You would have to listen to it in a more laid back mood to appreciate it because it is more mellow.

= it sucks.

No it's good, you just don't like it. Shall we consult you with what albums are good or not? Is it one of those days again?

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I can't bring myself to out-and-out HATE anything by Savatage, but FIGHT FOR THE ROCK is definitely at the bottom of the pile.

I would agree but that doesn't mean it sucks. I like it better than their last album.

Troublezone wrote:

No it's good, you just don't like it. Shall we consult you with what albums are good or not? Is it one of those days again?

If by "one of those days" you mean one of those days when you're a holier than thou ass, then yes. It is one of those days.

SpectreFate wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

No it's good, you just don't like it. Shall we consult you with what albums are good or not? Is it one of those days again?

If by "one of those days" you mean one of those days when you're a holier than thou ass, then yes. It is one of those days.

Isn't it everyday you're like that?

Here's the thing, folks. The guy behind anus.com believes he is the supreme authority on all things metal - as if that's even possible. I had a considerable e-mail based discussion with him some while back on the virtues (or lack thereof, in his mind) on "Christian" metal, and to him, it's a complete oxymoron, like many metal fans. However, most metal fans, while they may not want to be "preached at" they just ignore it & don't necessarily debate the existence of it. This guy denies all existence of "Christian metal" in any form. Essentially, even though bands like Tourniquet & Mortification play the same musical style as other metal bands, they CANNOT be considered metal because they espouse a Christian belief and don't represent what metal is supposed to be, which is rebellion, anti-establishment, anarchy, etc. The guy is a pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-anarchist who believes that the world would benefit from true, unrestricted anarchy, at least based on some of the articles that were on the site some years ago.

Read some of the music reviews on the site - pretentious! Basically, everything after "Symphonies of Sickness"-era Carcass is pablum, and is too marred by "rock" production & structure, lead playing, and lacking the "brilliance" of the early material. If learning how to play your instrument more skillfully and construct more intricate music that also fuses more melody & accessibility is taking a step backwards, then sorry - I can't help you!

Anyway, the guy's a tool. Just ignore him.

Maybe it's just me but anyone whose web site is called "anus.com" probably shouldn't set himself up as an authority on anything...

P.S. this dude is pretentious as hell. I clicked on a random link on his site and found this opening bit to a review of a Sarcofago CD...

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Like early life stirring in a small pond on one of billions of planets, the music of Sarcofago emerges from nothingness into whirling altitudinal changes of abstractly sculpted riffs sequenced by unendingly violent and natural, warlike rhythm.

Um... yeahhhhh, OK. Put down the thesaurus and just tell us whether or not it rocks. Whatever dude.