People don't even want to steal music anymore...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/02/04/businessinsider-forget-about-buying-music-online-people-dont-even-want-to-steal-music-2011-2.DTL#ixzz1DEcsMN9x

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The company looked at 10,000 files managed by the PublicBT BitTorrent tracker, and found that only 2.9% of them were music. That's way behind porn videos (35.8%), feature films (35.2%), and TV shows (12.7%). Even generic non-gaming software sparked more interest, with 4.2% of all pirated files.

I didn't read the whole 56 page study, but it seems like they are only researching Torrents. I think more music is downloaded from blogs than anything. If they did research on Filestube then they would get a more accurate number, methinks.

SpectreFate wrote:

I didn't read the whole 56 page study, but it seems like they are only researching Torrents. I think more music is downloaded from blogs than anything. If they did research on Filestube then they would get a more accurate number, methinks.

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of Metal & underground music is taken from blogs. But I would also venture to say that movies and porn are downloaded more overall anyway.

Makes me wonder if there are porn-related message boards where people moan about the state of the porn industry and say "I refuse to download, I always buy the DVD's because I want to support the artists"

Fat Freddy wrote:

Makes me wonder if there are porn-related message boards where people moan about the state of the porn industry and say "I refuse to download, I always buy the DVD's because I want to support the artists"

Yes. They exist.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Makes me wonder if there are porn-related message boards where people moan about the state of the porn industry and say "I refuse to download, I always buy the DVD's because I want to support the artists"

Yes. They exist.

I'll take your word for it since I'm on a work computer.

SpectreFate wrote:

I didn't read the whole 56 page study, but it seems like they are only researching Torrents. I think more music is downloaded from blogs than anything. If they did research on Filestube then they would get a more accurate number, methinks.

Yeah, probably.

The blogs are linked to what are called Netlockers (Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc). When they checked Rapidshare the same way, only a little over 10% of what is available are music files...porn and movies won out huge again.

Imo, music is shrinking in popularity. Kids like a song or two and then move onto the next big hit by some other group. It's not the voice of the people like it used to be. Groups are lucky to have a steady cult following that can keep them going. You know where that's different? Country.

TheNazgul wrote:

Imo, music is shrinking in popularity. Kids like a song or two and then move onto the next big hit by some other group. It's not the voice of the people like it used to be. Groups are lucky to have a steady cult following that can keep them going. You know where that's different? Country.

works for me. I am ditching metal to go the country route.

exact33 wrote:

works for me. I am ditching metal to go the country route.

In that case, you can feel free to send all your metal CDs to me. I will be more than glad to give'em a good home.

TheNazgul wrote:

Imo, music is shrinking in popularity. Kids like a song or two and then move onto the next big hit by some other group. It's not the voice of the people like it used to be. Groups are lucky to have a steady cult following that can keep them going. You know where that's different? Country.

I think Country is that way because of a couple things:

- people remain into new Country music as they get older moreso than fans of mainstream Pop or Rock genres..many of them move into Country

- because of this, older people are clinging to old buying habits, ie. CD's

I just watch Country Music Television for the video hotties. If you've ever wondered where all the girls in tight jeans and tiny t-shirts that used to go to rock/metal shows went, they're all into country now.

There's some truth to the blase attitude people have about music. I think it is because they are no longer inundated with hype that makes them believe that current music is important.

Temple of Blood wrote:

There's some truth to the blase attitude people have about music. I think it is because they are no longer inundated with hype that makes them believe that current music is important.

Well, that's just it. The way I see it, we're SO inundated with it that people become numb to it. Between American Idol and Award Shows and ringtone tie-in type of things, it's still pushed. It just comes and goes so fast that nobody places any value on it. There's several music award shows every year and many of them within the same year will have all the same people on them, patting each other on the back and giving each other trophies for $h!+ that will be invisible and uncool by the same time next year. It's the "current" music that is touted as the only thing that matters. Once it's no longer current, nobody wants it.

I'm talking mainstream music culture...not something that any of us are a part of.

American Idol doesn't feature much current music. Most of it is old Motown and 80s stuff.

In the 80s/90s there was a lot of hype in magazines/TV/radio about new releases.

Temple of Blood wrote:

American Idol doesn't feature much current music. Most of it is old Motown and 80s stuff.

In the 80s/90s there was a lot of hype in magazines/TV/radio about new releases.

Yeah, I know. But most of the "artists" AI churns out play right into the "here today gone tomorrow" mentality.

The internet has replaced those magazines and radio...and I see new, crap music all over TV...

This study just proves one thing - that the issue is the quality of music coming out these days, as in a lot of it sucks. Look at the studies - movies and porn and the # 1 illegal downloads. The porn industry clearly isn't in trouble and Hollywood keeps putting out blockbuster after blockbuster and doesn't show any signs of slowing down. The years that movie industry is down is the years that the movies aren't as good. It's about quality. The movie industry still grows "talent" - i.e. new directors are given smaller movies with smaller budgets that have a good chance to recoup cost so they can perfect their craft before they get the big budget flick (see Christopher Nolan, who waited over 10 years to make Inception).

In the music industry, nope, not anymore. The days of letting an artist develop are long gone -it;s all about the instant hit. Make one or you are outta here. Plus the quality of music just blows for the most part these days. The artist still putting out quality music are the ones I listened to back in the day. New artists don;t have it

Big difference between the movie and music industry too.

How many bad movies has Jennnifer Aniston made and yet she still gets offered plenty of roles? She's not starving. She gets paid upfront and if the movie sucks, oh well, just move onto the next script. As long as she maintains her looks, she's fine.

Now imagine if she was a singer. One bad album (or even a great album, but noone buys it) and she's gone.

At the restaurant that I work at, there are about 40 people on the payroll - from part timers to full timers. It is a small enough group of people that you get to know them a bit more than just superficially. Of those 40, there are THREE of us that listen to music with more than just a casual listen. Yes there are those who have the latest top forty artist/song on their i-pod or whatever, but beyond that there is only the three of us that invest time (and money?) into our love of music. One is into all things indie rock, the other is into rock of all types (some metal) and I am the metal head. I appreciate the fact that when we talk music (amongst other things) the passion they have is evident. Only one of the two download illegally as their main way of getting music.

A majority of the young high school kids working in the kitchen are all about video games and the such. None are interested in music in more than just a passing fancy, and that is only what is "popular" at the moment.

So, I can actually see the %'s put in the first post ring clear with accuracy. At least in my little neck of the woods.

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In the music industry, nope, not anymore. The days of letting an artist develop are long gone -it;s all about the instant hit. Make one or you are outta here. Plus the quality of music just blows for the most part these days. The artist still putting out quality music are the ones I listened to back in the day. New artists don;t have it

Yeah, so it's a catch 22.

TheNazgul wrote:

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In the music industry, nope, not anymore. The days of letting an artist develop are long gone -it;s all about the instant hit. Make one or you are outta here. Plus the quality of music just blows for the most part these days. The artist still putting out quality music are the ones I listened to back in the day. New artists don;t have it

Yeah, so it's a catch 22.

Anyone watch the Superbowl halftime show? Talking about (lack of) quality of music.

That was awful. Bring back the 60 somethings to show how it's done.

I think another good reason why a lot of people are downloading music instead of buying it is the fact that the economy is down. If it was higher, I think that record sales would be higher. But a tighter budget means people will need to just settle for a download instead.

Also, the people who download the most music also tend to buy the most music.

ultmetal wrote:

Anyone watch the Superbowl halftime show? Talking about (lack of) quality of music.

+1

I couldn't take it so I left the room and did other stuff until it got over.