why do people hate Phil Collins?

first of all excuse me if I am in the wrong forum. There was a recent poll on the most hated music celebrities and Phil was ranked in the top 5 most hated people in music along with Axl Rose and Fred Durst (no bloody wonder he is a dingbat!!). I agree that his solo stuff is the sort of music you give to a conventional Northern English dad as a present on father's day 'ayyop me son on father's day gave me the latest cd by Phil Collins what a good strapping young lad" and also its sort of the music a kid would listen to if he or she was on ritalin as seen portrayed in that South Park episode also he is a fantastic drummer and has written some good songs with his solo band (in the air tonight) and Genesis (Jesus he Knows me, Land of Confusion and afew others) even though their 80s stuff is not as good as their 70s stuff. But the question is why do people hate him?

I didnt even know people hate him that much...I like his material quite a bit, ecspecially the Genesis stuff. Didnt he do the soundtrack for that horrible animated Tarzan movie?...that film sucked hard, it wasnt even close to the books...Edgar Rice Burrough's would be pissed...the music was great though.

I don't know. I like Phil Collins. I think he's a bit cheesy at times, but there are many metal bands that are cheesy at times as well. The first Collins solo album is fantastic. Great CD for late evenings with the wife.

Not as big fan of the Genesis stuff after Abacab, but I love everything up to Abacab.

Because people are cynical jackasses.

probably because he's not hard rock or heavy metal. that's why i hate him. plus he's balding. i hate that.

mc666 wrote:

probably because he's not hard rock or heavy metal. that's why i hate him. plus he's balding. i hate that.

If I had to follow that logic, I'd hate Devin Townsend as well. But I guess most people hate Phil because of all the cheese he put out in the 90's when he sold his soul to Disney and the 'cool-jazz' radio stations, but he is/was a fantastic drummer and singer.

I can answer this question in two words (at least for me): His "voice".

Is there a more nasally, whining, Howard Cossell-sounding voice in rock? Not to my ears. This guy makes Michael Stipe sound like a basso.

When Phil "sings", dogs and cats within a three block radius start howling in pain.

ultmetal wrote:

I don't know. I like Phil Collins. I think he's a bit cheesy at times, but there are many metal bands that are cheesy at times as well. The first Collins solo album is fantastic. Great CD for late evenings with the wife.

Not as big fan of the Genesis stuff after Abacab, but I love everything up to Abacab.

agreed

The funniest Phil Collins cd review I ever read said - "Phil has once again fallen out of the boring tree, and has hit every branch on the way down". Made me literally LOL when I read that. Don't hate him, but will agree that he is boring. Him solo is not a part of my musical vocabulary, though his stuff with Genesis is pretty darn good.

GrandNational wrote:

mc666 wrote:

probably because he's not hard rock or heavy metal. that's why i hate him. plus he's balding. i hate that.

But I guess most people hate Phil because of all the cheese he put out in the 90's when he sold his soul to Disney and the 'cool-jazz' radio stations,.

that would be one of the explanations behind it I guess and I heard he did the same thing Bono did by showing off his support to world hunger in Africa but I still don't understand why he would be next to Fred Durst on the most hated list I mean comparing the two together is the equivalent of comparing gold to dog poo

My opinion is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with Phil Collins, aside from a little cheesiness, which is common to most every musician at one time or the other. Good on Phil Collins.

I like a lot of his material, in Genesis as well as a solo artist.

I prefer Phil Collins in Genesis than his solo material, but I like his solo albums, sure their is some cheese factor on some of his albums but so what. He is very talented musician, great songwriter and IMO a very good vocalist.

I don't hate Phil Collins, I liked him in Genesis and some of his solo material is excellent...he's also got some real turds in there as well, but as a whole I like him.

ultmetal wrote:

I don't know. I like Phil Collins. I think he's a bit cheesy at times, but there are many metal bands that are cheesy at times as well. The first Collins solo album is fantastic. Great CD for late evenings with the wife.

Not as big fan of the Genesis stuff after Abacab, but I love everything up to Abacab.

Nothin wrong with a little cheese...

He has written some classic songs in his career so for that i respect him.

I was not aware that Phil was so hated. I'm not a fan, but I certainly don't hate the guy. Aside from his music, was there any mention of him in his personal life? Is the guy a giant wanker or something? Axl Rose and Fred Durst have multiple reasons for people to dislike them. That I get. But to label Phil Collins as "most hated celebrity" just because of some boring musical output seems fishy to me. There must be more to it.

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Great CD for late evenings with the wife.

That's just dirty.


As for Phil hatred, people like to bandwagon. If one guy says he's terrible, be sure at least 20 people will adopt his feelings based solely on his opinion and so on and so on. We all have been guilty of it at some point. But the bottom line is...Who gives a flying pile of monkey sh!t what people think? I like what I like regardless. Long Live Debbie!

SpectreFate wrote:

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Great CD for late evenings with the wife.

That's just dirty.


As for Phil hatred, people like to bandwagon. If one guy says he's terrible, be sure at least 20 people will adopt his feelings based solely on his opinion and so on and so on. We all have been guilty of it at some point. But the bottom line is...Who gives a flying pile of monkey sh!t what people think? I like what I like regardless. Long Live Debbie!

I guess something's "In the Air Tonite"...

Phil is sitting in his stu, stu, studio, crying his eyes out over this dubious title.

I think most people hate Phil nowadays because of this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094819/

Ever seen it? Awful, awful, AWFUL movie. And mind you, this is coming from someone who loves "Howard the Duck."

Fat Freddy wrote:

I think most people hate Phil nowadays because of this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094819/

Ever seen it? Awful, awful, AWFUL movie. And mind you, this is coming from someone who loves "Howard the Duck."

His appearance on Miami Vice was even better.

Troublezone wrote:

His appearance on Miami Vice was even better.

At least Miami Vice was somewhat cool... for its time!

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

His appearance on Miami Vice was even better.

At least Miami Vice was somewhat cool... for its time!

What?!

Fat Freddy wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

His appearance on Miami Vice was even better.

At least Miami Vice was somewhat cool... for its time!

I second this, I still watch the re-runs