Question about the Christian metal industry

ROTFLMAO......okaaayyyyyyyy?!

Spectrefate, that is "Post of the Week" for sure.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Spectrefate, that is "Post of the Week" for sure.

Unfortunately, that's what goes on in my mind all day.

spectrefate wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Spectrefate, that is "Post of the Week" for sure.

Unfortunately, that's what goes on in my mind all day.

Nothin' wrong with making everyone else's day a little more surreal.

When the man who led me to Christ tried to instill in me that listening to anything not Christian is wrong I never fully agreed with him. I thought then, as I do now, that as long as listening to secular music does not cause one to fall away it was ok to listen. However, he pounded it so hard into me that I compromised and decided that as long as I get rid of the music whose lyrics critisize (SIC) my beliefs then I can listen to those who are neutral and I ended up dumping over 100 CDs from my small 350 collection. Unfortunatly I took a fall from grace and lived four years deep in sin and stopped filtering what I listened to, watched, and said. During this time my secular collection grew and I started re-caprturing my old CDs (so far I've only been successful on getting about 25 of them give or take). Finally in August I came back to the Lord and I am now cleaning up my life. With this experience I realized that as far as what I listened to and watched, it does not matter. What causes a man to fall away from God is NOT music, movies, TV, or books. Taking your focus off the Lord, living for selfish pleasure, being greedy, and letting your emotions cloud your judgement are the things that cause a man to fall. So now I listen to what ever I like (I do still have some boundries that I won't cross as far as lyrical content goes) because as long as I keep praying, reading the bible, and trying to live my life in the way Jesus taught I will not fall again (no matter who I listen to).

Thanks for sharing that DallasBlack. I think Christians sometimes are more concerned about what they are not doing than what they are doing. Are you praying every day, reading your Bible, going to Church, and fellowshiping with other believers? Don't only take away your sinful stuff and replace it with nothing, your sin will surely return. Get drunk on God (so to speak) as it says in the Bible.

Just my 2 cents.

DallasBlack wrote:

Finally in August I came back to the Lord and I am now cleaning up my life. With this experience I realized that as far as what I listened to and watched, it does not matter. What causes a man to fall away from God is NOT music, movies, TV, or books. Taking your focus off the Lord, living for selfish pleasure, being greedy, and letting your emotions cloud your judgement are the things that cause a man to fall. So now I listen to what ever I like (I do still have some boundries that I won't cross as far as lyrical content goes) because as long as I keep praying, reading the bible, and trying to live my life in the way Jesus taught I will not fall again (no matter who I listen to).

Dude! That's exactly how I feel! I'm also a Christian, but was raised in a very strict Baptist/AOG home. My parents burned my secular music when I was a kid and beat me til I had welts on me because I bought this stuff. It made me very messed up. I can't even really associate with my biological family anymore. It's really a miracle I even live for Christ.

I've even gotten rid of my secular music entirely a few years ago. I deeply regret it. God never told me to do this! Being a Christian is not about what you watch, listen to etc! It's about love! Loving God and loving others! Jesus even said that if you walk in LOVE you fulfill ALL the commandments!

Great post Dallas! It really struck a chord with me. So yeah, I listen to Slayer, and a bunch of bad stuff. But funny thing is - I pray for the bands I listen to! So every time I crank Slayer, I say a little prayer for Tom, Kerry, and the rest of the boys!



TRoy, I do want to say I highly respect your choice - and think it's great you've decided this. The way you are coming across is entirely different than a lot of 'religious' Christians though. I used to be way religious due to my upbringing. Now I just want Jesus, and in a way I am set free in this area. Hope that makes sense.

I think it will be interesting how people in our generation and the generations to come face this issue with their own children. I personally believe with most everyone else that it doesn't matter what you ingest within reason*, it's how you interpret it and have it affect you.

I firmly do NOT believe in the trash in, trash out mentality when it comes to things you enjoy. Of course there are strict boundaries as to what is trash.

*within reason excludes things that are harmful to yourself or others i.e. pornography, drugs, violence, crime.....

DallasBlack wrote:

When the man who led me to Christ tried to instill in me that listening to anything not Christian is wrong I never fully agreed with him. I thought then, as I do now, that as long as listening to secular music does not cause one to fall away it was ok to listen. However, he pounded it so hard into me that I compromised and decided that as long as I get rid of the music whose lyrics critisize (SIC) my beliefs then I can listen to those who are neutral and I ended up dumping over 100 CDs from my small 350 collection. Unfortunatly I took a fall from grace and lived four years deep in sin and stopped filtering what I listened to, watched, and said. During this time my secular collection grew and I started re-caprturing my old CDs (so far I've only been successful on getting about 25 of them give or take). Finally in August I came back to the Lord and I am now cleaning up my life. With this experience I realized that as far as what I listened to and watched, it does not matter. What causes a man to fall away from God is NOT music, movies, TV, or books. Taking your focus off the Lord, living for selfish pleasure, being greedy, and letting your emotions cloud your judgement are the things that cause a man to fall. So now I listen to what ever I like (I do still have some boundries that I won't cross as far as lyrical content goes) because as long as I keep praying, reading the bible, and trying to live my life in the way Jesus taught I will not fall again (no matter who I listen to).

Thanks for sharing. I thank God I never had to do anything as drastic as to sell my cd collection to get closer to God. 90% of my collection and thousands of dollars worth of albums will have gone to waste. Keep your heart pure and pray continously and you'll see where your priorities should be.

I'm not a christian in the same sense as Scott, Scott M, Uncle Saxon or Kurt, but I do have a belief in God.


I stay completely away from anything overtly Satanic. It just seems juvenile to me.

By the way, like my previous avatar, this one is also just meant to be silly. In case anyone was irritated by it.

I just noticed! You inverted the inverted Cross!! I figured all along that it was a silly avatar....no seriously evil dude would have such a nerdly looking guy as their rep...

The band Horde has a song called "Invert the Inverted Cross"...was that a reference to that song, scottmitchell74?

Indeed!

scottmitchell74 wrote:

I just noticed! You inverted the inverted Cross!! I figured all along that it was a silly avatar....no seriously evil dude would have such a nerdly looking guy as their rep...

And there are clouds!

scottmitchell74 wrote:

I just noticed! You inverted the inverted Cross!! I figured all along that it was a silly avatar....no seriously evil dude would have such a nerdly looking guy as their rep...

Evil? Herbert Kornfeld has always been hardcore gansta, yo...
http://www.theonion.com/content/columnists/view/kornfeld

When I first converted in 1997 I didn´t get ride of secular music because No one could show me verses in the bible "condemnig" it , ALSO, one of the reasons I converted is that in 1995 I read an interview with Steve Rowe of Mortification where he said he liked any Metal, even secular or satanic , so I tought "I will join this White Metal scene because they listen to any Metal they like" but when I really started to participate I noticed that most Christians didn´t listen to secular music. than I got backslid and that was the "state" I stayed most of the time I was a Christian.

Someone told me that "the holy spirit" would guide me on this. So I didn´t know what to do. I was "afraid" that God could take away all of my secular music so I prevented myself by buying and downloading all the Christian Metal I could. This was back in 2001. This was when I perceived that MOST Christian metalheads ( at least here in Brasil ) tought secular music should be avoided but NO ONE could point scripture to show that listening to secular music was a "sin".

I tought it was extremely hypocritical to give up secular music but keep watching secular movies , reading secular books , etc. In the end of 2005 I tought god gave me a "sign" that I should give up secular music so I gave all my secular CDs , tapes , MP3 , everything to a friend, just to get all back 3 months latter. This guilt for listening to the music I loved stayed until 2008 when I ABANDONED Christianity and moved to another religion. It was a wonderful relief.

I think the fusion between Metal and religion is OK , but not the Christian one. a Religion that was known to say that rock was "of the devil" and in addition condemns all types of "non Christian" music as sinful is not the most appropriate place to create a Rock or Metal Scene.

Christian Metal is an oxymoron indeed, not because of Metal nor because of Christianity but because of THE CHURCH and its legalistic traditions.