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PostSubject: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 5:08 pm

Well after all the trouble OD had with VOH. What do you think?
I have never pre ordered an album. I usually wait long after the release date...
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 5:12 pm

I also wait till the cd is out and then i try to buy it fast as a shark.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 5:43 pm

I think a band should only offer an album for pre-order if it is in the can and on the way.

Otherwise it is counting your chickens before they're hatched.
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I never pre-order...I'm patient enough and too frugal!
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 6:09 pm

Preordering makes sense if there is a limited protion with some extras (free patch, etc) but as Jim said the band/label should offer preorders ONLY after the CD has been sent for manufacturing and the digital proof approved.

It is a big no-no if a label offers early preorders in hope to raise funds for making the release. This almost always ends up on a wrong side.
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I agree pre ordering for production costs is a bad idea...
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 6:39 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:
I think a band should only offer an album for pre-order if it is in the can and on the way.

Otherwise it is counting your chickens before they're hatched.

Couldn't agree more. I have the Once Dead album on pre-order from Open Grave since last July! That's crazy, since I thought the album was going to come out last September. It's not cool milking money from your fans and supporters to get the album done. Actually, it's pretty
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I have never pre-ordered anything. I always wait til its available.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 8:35 pm

I usually never pre-order an album.The only time was for Temple of Blood's Overlord.But hopefully I'll have it soon Smile
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Couldn't agree more. I have the Once Dead album on pre-order from Open Grave since last July! That's crazy, since I thought the album was going to come out last September. It's not cool milking money from your fans and supporters to get the album done. Actually, it's pretty
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As buyer I see preordering as a way of expressing your support by helping the band/label to recoup some expenses in advance. In return it is always nice to get some small extra like getting a free patch, button, your CD signed, etc. That's why I always preorder stuff when possible and would never make an issue if there is a reasonable delay, but 10 months is merry indeed.

If you preordered it last July and still waiting I'd call that not pre-ordering, but rip-offing... plain and simple! If the label had any integrity they should have refunded everyone by now along with their deepest apologies.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 9:08 pm

I dont pre order often. Although if its from someone I want to support I will with no problem. For example I pre ordered the OD cd, I was #23. Been a while but I dont really care. Ill get a disc someday and I am patient. But generally I dont do it.
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Ultimatum have offered pre-orders on t-shirts, posters, and other things people requested. We did pre-orders on our Til the End! EP because it was to be a limited, edition release. Those who didn't pre-order, didn't get one.

However, on our full length album we did not do pre-sales.

I have pre-ordered some things from bands I want to support, but for the most part, I wait til the album is released.

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I've never pre-ordered a CD and after hearing a few horror stories on this and other forums, I don't think I ever will either!!

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I pre order occasionaly but mostly only on amazon. I did it once or twice else where like newbury comics to get some autographs but I never really ran into any problems except with impulse music where I will never buy from again. If I know its something that none of the stores will carry here or a limited edition then i definetly pre order. I actually just pre ordered the Carnivore metal mind re issues on amazon.
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scottmitchell74 wrote:
I never pre-order...I'm patient enough and too frugal!

Ditto. I hardly buy anything on the day of release anymore either. I'm a patient, cheap man.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 30, 2008 11:22 pm

I pre-ordered the Black Sabbath - Hammersmith CD. Only 5000 were pressed and if you didn't pre-order the day it became available, you didn't get one.

Some band's offer pre-orders because it's the only way they can raise the money to make the merchandise they are selling. In Ultimatum's case, people wanted Into the Pit shirts months before the CD was even available. We asked if people wanted to pre-order them to come up with the money and they did. So, it worked out well. We were able to get the shirts and people got the shirts they were asking for.

We've never ripped off anyone on any pre-order we have done.

I've never been ripped off when doing a pre-order.

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PostSubject: Re: Is it worth it to pre order an album?   Is it worth it to pre order an album? Icon_minitimeThu May 01, 2008 12:30 am

I like to pre-order whe the band is going to sell the album to the band earlier than what is suposed to.

I also like to pre-order when there is an special package with the release.

But I usually wait until the day of it's release, and buy the albums on the same week it has been released
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I've pre-ordered a lot of CD's, and had no problems with it, yet. That is, I'm still waiting for that Once Dead CD I've heard so much about! Laughing Can you believe, I ordered that thing when Scott was still in the band! And now it's not even the same band anymore!! They still owe me a t-shirt I ordered 2 or 3 years ago also.... Cool

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Pre-ordering is good for me because I'm all the time forgetting release dates. That is, unless peeps here beat it into my head like this new Testament album. Rolling Eyes
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I pre-ordered the Black Sabbath - Hammersmith CD. Only 5000 were pressed and if you didn't pre-order the day it became available, you didn't get one.

That's the only one I regret not pre-ordering. D*mn my procrastination! I know a guy that used to work at Rhino Records and I was hoping he'd come thru with a copy for me, but I guess that was a pretty hot item.
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I used to but have lost money so unless it's on a site I know will give my money back like cdbaby or Amazon I don't anymore.
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I ordered Stryper live cd on pre-order. I swore I'd never do it again, but I did order 'Til The End.
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Pre-ordering is good for me because I'm all the time forgetting release dates. That is, unless peeps here beat it into my head like this new Testament album. Rolling Eyes

Testament has a new album out? Very Happy
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Pre-ordering is good for me because I'm all the time forgetting release dates. That is, unless peeps here beat it into my head like this new Testament album. Rolling Eyes

Testament has a new album out? Very Happy

Huh?

What new Testament album?

What's a Testament?

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As buyer I see preordering as a way of expressing your support by helping the band/label to recoup some expenses in advance. In return it is always nice to get some small extra like getting a free patch, button, your CD signed, etc. That's why I always preorder stuff when possible and would never make an issue if there is a reasonable delay, but 10 months is merry indeed.

If you preordered it last July and still waiting I'd call that not pre-ordering, but rip-offing... plain and simple! If the label had any integrity they should have refunded everyone by now along with their deepest apologies.

I'm probably going to contact the label to get the refund. I'll buy the Once Dead album when it comes out. I usually pre-order from places like cduniverse, where I know there is a definite release date. This is a lesson learned.
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