Venom!

Metal graduate Number of posts : 450 Age : 42

Do you think Venom are the Godfathers of black metal? Or do you think they're a second-rate NWOBHM band, who couldn't sing or play to save their lives?

Master Sailboat Number of posts : 9301 Age : 45

i can tell where you are going with this just by the tone of the post. i must say, it's rather underhanded to start a poll on account of you not liking them & wanting people to back you in your opinion (as if that makes it overrule all others...it doesn't).

i don't really consider Venom the "godfathers of black metal", but i do enjoy the first 3 albums alot for what they were. old school punk-influenced metal. if you don't like them, don't listen to them. why would it bother you if they continued to please those that do?

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Metal graduate Number of posts : 450 Age : 42

I'm just tryin' to see what people think. It seems that everyone I know who has heard Venom either really likes 'em or really doesn't like 'em. That's all.

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1786 Age : 36

I'm with MC.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 3893 Age : 52

Well Venom weren't excellent musicians and they didn't have a lot of talent. However, they put a lot into what they did and sparked influence to a lot of bands to follow. I have always liked Venom though! The only one I did not care for is the latest "Metal Black" album. I think its retarded!

Administrator Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57

Not a big fan, but I like some Venom. The first three albums are NWOBHM classics, although the lyrical direction doesn't appeal to me at all.

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Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4238 Age : 48

Yes, i AM a big VENOM fan. I love most of their albums but their last album METAL BLACK was a big disapointment in my opinion.
I also love CRONOS solo albums and one that MANTAS did (very melodic but cool). I also liked TONY DOLAN in the band but thats just because i am also a ATOMKRAFT maniac lol.

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 52

I have a compilation album of theirs which I listen to from time to time, but it's never inspired me to seek out any of their other material. I think they were pioneers in the black metal realm and decent at what they do, but not really my thing.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37670 Age : 54

My brother was the big Venom fan in our house, I thought some of their early stuff was fun but never went out of my way to collect much of their stuff (so I guess that puts me in the "don't really care" column)...
I did recently pick up the "extended version" reissue of the CAST IN STONE album from 1998, which comes with a bonus disc of re-recorded old songs, all of which sound great, so I think this is the only Venom I'll ever really need.

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1786 Age : 36

Welcome to Hell & Black Metal are essentials!

Metal master Number of posts : 688 Age : 34

sovdat wrote:: Welcome to Hell & Black Metal are essentials!

I'll keep an eye for those, haven't heard these guys.

Metal student Number of posts : 204 Age : 52

I voted "Don't Care".

I like Venom ok, but I can take 'em or leave 'em. Some of their songs were good, but I found all their Satan imagery rather amusing.

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LOVE EM!!!

Don't care for their lyrically direction - but musically speaking this is actually one of my favorite bands.

Janitor of the Void Number of posts : 3361 Age : 56

ultmetal wrote:: Not a big fan, but I like some Venom. The first three albums are NWOBHM classics, although the lyrical direction doesn't appeal to me at all.

This is pretty much my stance as well. The first three albums are proto-thrash/punk-metal NWOBHM classics, IMO, and aside from the satanic headtrip, I quite enjoy the overall vibe of that early stuff. They were definitely not virtuoso musicians, but they had a HUGE influence on the thrash metal movement nonetheless.

I recently went through their entire lyrical catalogue and pulled out all of the songs that I didn't mind lyrically, and I found enough for a cool 2 disc comp! (ult has a copy of it too) Very Happy

The stuff off of the album Resurrection from 2000 is really heavy - particularly the song "Control Freak"!

But as far as them being the "Godfathers of Black Metal", I'm not so sure. They may have coined the phrase "Black Metal" with their second album, but I see very few similarities between what they did and the BM of the recent past and today.
(aside from the hailsatanwakkamookahamanahamana BS of course) insane

Zooey Addict Number of posts : 17074 Age : 44

Haven't heard a whole lot of their music but from what I have heard I wasn't very impressed with so I'm going to have to take the middle road with this. Although I can't deny the fact that they were the forerunners of black metal.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 25943 Age : 54

I'm not a diehard Venom fan but I do like some of their stuff.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 15680 Age : 51

Since none of the poll options can voice my choice, I am opting to cast the vote on the last option just for the heck of it!

I like some of Venom's materials, and I don;t hate them, but that doesn't mean I consider them to be the greatest or "Godfathers" of black metal. They are good, that is it.

Metal master Number of posts : 665 Age : 52

I always liked them a lot. I don't listen to them anymore due to their lyrics but they were a good band.

nOOb master Number of posts : 4429 Age : 35

i quite like venom but i do not have any albums so thats puts me in the dont care option

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I acquired Cast In Stone from Eyesore recently and purchased Resurrection. I must say, both of those albums are quality discs. Metal Black is just bad. I don't know what happened with that one.

But in general I have been a Venom freak since I was a tot and the lyrics are just that, lyrics. I don't take any lyrics to heart even from most Christian bands.

They were a horrible live band in the 80's since Abaddon couldn't keep a steady drum beat and Mantas played about as well as one of my dogs jumping on guitar strings. But Cronos has always been what has kept the band afloat.

However, you can't beat Welcome to Hell, Black Metal, At War With Satan, and Possessed on intensity. I recommend all of their albums except Metal Black.

Subject: Re: Venom! Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:18 am

Since spectrefate bumped this thread,whatever happened to ole TH Joe?

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37670 Age : 54

spectrefate wrote:: Metal Black is just bad. I don't know what happened with that one.

Agreed, METAL BLACK was godawful.

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Venom was such a camp band.

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1510 Age : 41

Love 'em. "Lay down your soul to the God's rock and roll!"

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spiritoradio wrote:: Love 'em. "Lay down your soul to the God's rock and roll!"

BLAAAACK METAAAAAAAaaAAAAaaaAAL!

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