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PostSubject: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 9:51 am

I can't be the only person to ever notice this....







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Only three? That's nothing.

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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 10:18 am

Hahaha

One thing this proves, is Maiden stole a lot of shit.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 11:42 am

I always considered this song to be a rip off of rime of the ancient mariner:

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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 12:48 pm

Big Rich wrote:
I can't be the only person to ever notice this....







Wicker Man I noticed immediately 18 years ago when I bought the album and spun it for the first time.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 11:48 pm

I put up a thread a while back mentioning these songs having more or less the same part at the beginning before they all take different directions...



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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 24, 2018 3:40 am

The Priest, Stryper and Maiden comparisons are exactly the same riff. But the other comparisons were not exactly the same. You can hear the slight deviations.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeMon Dec 24, 2018 8:54 am

https://youtu.be/6sGtryDcGrI
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeTue Dec 25, 2018 8:36 pm

The opening riff of "Burnnn" from Pantera's "Power Metal" album is so close to Priest's "Freewheel Burning" I am surprised when it's not that song. Ha.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeWed Dec 26, 2018 12:24 pm

Big Rich wrote:
Hahaha

One thing this proves, is Maiden stole a lot of shit.

No, it proves that simple riffs are easy to think of.

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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeWed Dec 26, 2018 1:41 pm

It’s almost impossible to not tread over riffs already used by other bands. At this point, hard rock music has been around for 50+ something years. There’s only so many notes and chords on a guitar.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeWed Dec 26, 2018 2:16 pm

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Big Rich wrote:
Hahaha

One thing this proves, is Maiden stole a lot of shit.

No, it proves that simple riffs are easy to think of.

Agreed.

I however, don't think that it's all been done before. Not by a long shot!

Tons of artists have used more subtle variations of standard patterns.

The most important quality in a good song is good songwriting anyway, and not stylistic innovation.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeThu Dec 27, 2018 11:18 am

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Big Rich wrote:
Hahaha

One thing this proves, is Maiden stole a lot of shit.

No, it proves that simple riffs are easy to think of.

I don't know, man. I wouldn't be the first person to say that.

http://metaltalk.net/news_seventeen/iron_maiden_advised_to_settle_out_of_court.php
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeThu Dec 27, 2018 1:44 pm

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Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Big Rich wrote:
Hahaha

One thing this proves, is Maiden stole a lot of shit.

No, it proves that simple riffs are easy to think of.

I don't know, man. I wouldn't be the first person to say that.

http://metaltalk.net/news_seventeen/iron_maiden_advised_to_settle_out_of_court.php

None of that matters. You can point to almost anything from the last 30 years and find something that predates it and sounds a lot like it. There's nothing new under the sun.

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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 28, 2018 9:59 am

Well, you certainly know more about songwriting, but in a conversation about Maiden stealing, a news story about them stealing certainly matters.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeTue Mar 03, 2020 11:56 am

the sentinel wrote:
The opening riff of "Burnnn" from Pantera's "Power Metal" album is so close to Priest's "Freewheel Burning" I am surprised when it's not that song. Ha.

Eh. Not really. But...parts of the song "Power Metal" is nearly identical to Leatherwolf's "Black Knight." Although the Power Metal album came out first.



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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeTue Mar 03, 2020 10:30 pm

Good call, Ken. For as many times as I have listened to both songs in the last 30 years, I never made the connection. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeTue Mar 03, 2020 11:11 pm

I only own one Leatherwolf album so I am not familiar with this song. So similar to Pantera's song.
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PostSubject: Re: 3 songs, the same riff....   3 songs, the same riff.... Icon_minitimeWed Mar 04, 2020 7:09 pm

Not three songs but one and the artist stole from himself. I heard this song for the first time the other day and it's a pretty cool song with Mr. Loaf on vocals. I won't name what song it steals from because it's pretty obvious.
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Gilbert wrote:
I only own one Leatherwolf album so I am not familiar with this song. So similar to Pantera's song.

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