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http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2015-01-30/steve-harris-voted-world-s-greatest-bassist

I can't say I disagree with any of the ten they list, though I might have ordered a couple differently.
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Here's the list...

1. Steve Harris (Iron Maiden)
2. Cliff Burton (Metallica)
3. Geddy Lee (Rush)
4. Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
5. Les Claypool (Primus)
6. Paul Gray (Slipknot)
7. Jaco Pastorius (Weather Report)
8. John Myung (Dream Theater)
9. Justin Chancellor (Tool)
10. Lemmy (Motörhead)

I don't know who Jaco Pastorius is, or know enough about Paul Gray and Slipknot to judge, but the rest of the list seems pretty solid I guess. I mighta put Geezer at the top with 'Arry a close 2nd. The rest of them all seem pretty unique and have their own style.

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Jaco was the bass player for Weather Report in the 70s. He generally gets included on these kinds of lists to make the writer feel more well-rounded, "I'll look like I have more sophisticated tastes if I include a jazz musician on my list...even though I just found his name on Wikipedia and I've never heard a jazz album all the way through in my life."
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Jaco was the bass player for Weather Report in the 70s.  He generally gets included on these kinds of lists to make the writer feel more well-rounded, "I'll look like I have more sophisticated tastes if I include a jazz musician on my list...even though I just found his name on Wikipedia and I've never heard a jazz album all the way through in my life."  

Point taken, although this list was supposedly assembled from a readers poll. So blame pompous blow-hard music fans this time, not the writers. Razz

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S.D. wrote:
Jaco was the bass player for Weather Report in the 70s.  He generally gets included on these kinds of lists to make the writer feel more well-rounded, "I'll look like I have more sophisticated tastes if I include a jazz musician on my list...even though I just found his name on Wikipedia and I've never heard a jazz album all the way through in my life."  

According to the article, this was the top ten as voted by Metal Hammer readers. In which case, it does seem a little odd that Pastorius is there - how many Metal Hammer readers would have even heard of him, let alone voted for him?
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I am kinda surprised who I dont see on this list...

Phil Lynott
Rudy Sarzo
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I don't think Cliff Burton should be on this list at all. He is way overrated, as was his contributions to Metallica and thrash metal in general.
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I don't think Cliff Burton should be on this list at all.  He is way overrated, as was his contributions to Metallica and thrash metal in general.

But...but...had Cliff lived, Metallica would have stayed THRASH!!!!!!! headbanger

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Chris Squire (Yes) - major influence on Steve Harris and Geddy Lee
John Entwistle (The Who)
Jack Bruce (Cream)
Tony Levin (King Crimson)
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Temple of Blood wrote:
I don't think Cliff Burton should be on this list at all.  He is way overrated, as was his contributions to Metallica and thrash metal in general.

But...but...had Cliff lived, Metallica would have stayed THRASH!!!!!!! headbanger

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haha, yeah. Exactly.
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S.D. wrote:
Chris Squire (Yes) - major influence on Steve Harris and Geddy Lee
John Entwistle (The Who)
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S.D. wrote:
Chris Squire (Yes) - major influence on Steve Harris and Geddy Lee
John Entwistle (The Who)
Jack Bruce (Cream)
Tony Levin (King Crimson)

Yeah, those seem like big omissions.

I don't know Slipknot that well but is Paul Grey a big part of their sound?

Metallica didn't even have much prominent bass, that's another reason Cliff shouldn't be #2.
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I don't know Slipknot that well but is Paul Grey a big part of their sound?

I think he got thrown in there because he's dead moreso than his ability. Any Slipknot fans care to disagree?

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Not a big fan of Slipknot but I do listen to them from time to time. I do not remember hearing any bass on their albums that made me go "that is awesome". A solid player though.
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Les Claypool owes a massive debt of gratitude to Larry Graham...

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Temple of Blood wrote:
I don't think Cliff Burton should be on this list at all.  He is way overrated, as was his contributions to Metallica and thrash metal in general.

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Couldn't agree less with people on Cliff Burton. I don't know jack about bass playing but to argue that his influence on Metallica is overrated is laughable.

I'm surprised that Jah Wobble didn't make the list, he always gets included in best bass player lists despite the fact that he's been repeating the same bass line on everything he's played on since the '70s.
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what about Billy Sheehan, Rick James or Michael Anthony...or maybe Bootsy Collins....

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Am I the only person here who pays no attention to the bass player in a band?

Unless they're spotlighted in some kind of odd solo, I just want them to hold down the low end. 

I think bassman is familiar with my mentality based on the quotes he uses in his sig.

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Most non-musicians don't even know what a bass sounds like.  Sad too.  Rock is so focused on guitarists that all the wonderful possibilities of the instrument go mostly unnoticed.

It also depends on what styles you listen to, really simple stuff like AC/DC or Judas Priest, the bass player could probably cut off his left arm and still be able to play most of their songs.  

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Most non-musicians don't even know what a bass sounds like.  Sad too.  Rock is so focused on guitarists that all the wonderful possibilities of the instrument go mostly unnoticed.

It also depends on what styles you listen to, really simple stuff like AC/DC or Judas Priest, the bass player could probably cut off his left arm and still be able to play most of their songs.  

lol!

I guess that's more or less what I was getting at. 

Unless you listen to prog or jazz I don't think you care who the bassist is as long as he's in key.

EDIT: BTW, I am a former musician; I played trumpet for 15 years and was actually in a competition jazz band in high school.  So I do appreciate the bass.  I guess I can't really distinguish a good bass player from a bad one in the genres I listen to most often.

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Don't get me wrong about AC/DC and Judas Priest, there is an art to playing simply and in-the-pocket, those guys are great at it. But, if you're trying to get someone to appreciate the bass as an instrument those aren't the best choices.

I know you listen to some Rush, it should be fairly easy to hear what Geddy is up to. Put on the song "The Camera Eye" from Moving Pictures and then concentrate on what Geddy lays down underneath the guitar solo, just tune out Lifeson and focus on the bass.

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Temple of Blood wrote:
I don't think Cliff Burton should be on this list at all.  He is way overrated, as was his contributions to Metallica and thrash metal in general.

You're wrong!
He was a great player and he introduced the melody elements in Metallica. He also inspired a lot of bass players with his style.
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Don't get me wrong about AC/DC and Judas Priest, there is an art to playing simply and in-the-pocket, those guys are great at it.  But, if you're trying to get someone to appreciate the bass as an instrument those aren't the best choices.  

I know you listen to some Rush, it should be fairly easy to hear what Geddy is up to.  Put on the song "The Camera Eye" from Moving Pictures and then concentrate on what Geddy lays down underneath the guitar solo, just tune out Lifeson and focus on the bass.  


One of my favorite songs for Geddy's bass is "The Enemy Within."
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MetalGuy71 wrote:
Here's the list...

1. Steve Harris (Iron Maiden)
2. Cliff Burton (Metallica)
3. Geddy Lee (Rush)
4. Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath)
5. Les Claypool (Primus)
6. Paul Gray (Slipknot)
7. Jaco Pastorius (Weather Report)
8. John Myung (Dream Theater)
9. Justin Chancellor (Tool)
10. Lemmy (Motörhead)

I'm cool with 7 of these, but Paul Gray, Justin Chancellor, and Lemmy?

Where's Billy Sheehan and Tony Franklin?
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