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PostSubject: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 6:54 pm

Who's surprised at this revelation?

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jake-e-lee-why-i-gave-up-songwriting-credit-for-ozzy-osbournes-bark-at-the-moon/

"During a December 1 appearance on Eddie Trunk's "Trunk Nation" show on SiriusXM's Hair Nation, Lee recalled how he gave up the songwriting credit for "Bark At The Moon". He said: "Here's the truth. This is really gonna get me in more hot water, but whatever, I'm in hot water and I don't see a way out…"

He continued: "I was told from the get-go, '[If] you write part of the songs, you'll get writing credit, you'll get publishing. That's part of your deal.' So we recorded the album. I'm recording the album at Ridge Farm in Scotland, and this in the middle of Scotland, in the middle of farmland. It is actually a farm — Ridge Farm is actually a farm; the recording studio is in the barn. So I'm by myself. I don't have management, I don't have a lawyer, I don't have anything. Anyway… But they promise me, 'You'll get what's coming.' And I keep asking because I'm getting really close to finishing all my stuff on the record, and finally, once I lay down the final track of my guitar playing, they said, 'Ah! We have the contract for you.' And in it, it says, specifically, 'Ozzy Osbourne wrote all the songs. You had nothing to do with any of the writing, you have no claim to publishing, and you cannot say so publicly.' And I looked at it. I'm looking at Sharon [Ozzy's wife/manager], and I said, 'This is not what you told me before.' And she says, 'No, it isn't.' [And I said], 'Why do you think I'm gonna sign it?' And she says, 'Because if you don't, we'll give you a plane ticket, you go back home and you stand in line and you sue us. In the meantime, we have all your tracks, we'll get another guitar player, he'll redo your tracks, and you'll have nothing.'"

Jake added: "The only reason I'm saying it now is because that was just mean. That was mean. What am I gonna do? Really? Am I gonna say, 'Fine. I'm going home. Take my tracks off. Some other guy will get all the credit for playing guitar, and I still have to try to sue you for the rights?' It would have been just… not a good decision."

Asked how it came about that he got songwriting credit for his work on "The Ultimate Sin", Jake said: "Well, then, I refused to do anything until I had a contract in front of me promising me writing credit and publishing."
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 7:01 pm

This coming right after Bob Daisley's accusations (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ex-ozzy-osbourne-bassist-bob-daisley-says-randy-rhoads-was-disrespected-at-classic-rock-roll-of-honour). Now my question is, was Ozzy really shitting on his musicians and songwriters that whole time, or was he just to wasted to even know?
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 7:05 pm

I once read a book about Ozzy - forget the title - but it was very well written -
it's all about the guitar players - in and out - Brad Gilles - Bernie Torme - Jake - etc
Sharon was tough - she still is - aggresive woman - on The View blah blah blah -
I'm GLAD Jake spoke up - finally - Bark and Ultimate Sin were great cd's and concerts -
Ozzy and Sharon shouldn't be causing fear in Jake anymore about this -
money - damn - root of all EVIL Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 7:22 pm

I read that story before in Bob Daisley interviews, (and it is in his book too I will guess, which I plan to buy,  
http://www.bobdaisley.com/for-facts-sake/order-now  ).
Yes, good to see Jake E. Lee corroborate the facts.
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 7:58 pm

Don Airey never got credit for the intro to Mr. Crowley, so now he plays it every night with Deep Purple during his organ solo.
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 8:01 pm

As if I needed yet another reason to dislike her.

But let's be frank here. She learned her managing skills from her father Don Arden who was a notorious thug manager. And that's the way business was done back then. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree in this case. The mob ran the music business and force and intimidation was the way things were done.

He ain't metal but read Tommy James' book, Music the mob and me. He explains the shady practices of back in the day in great detail.

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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 16, 2014 8:55 pm

Daisley got ripped off more than Jake.

But what could Jake do? Sharon was holding all the cards. If he had quit he would be another unknown LA guitarist.
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeWed Dec 17, 2014 2:35 am

Ozzy himself got horribly ripped off by managers, I suppose he just decided that the best way to not get screwed was to screw everyone else first. I don't buy into the idea that it's ALL Sharon and i think that Ozzy is just as bad as his wife.
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PostSubject: Re: Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon   Jake E. Lee - Songwriting Credits on Bark At The Moon Icon_minitimeWed Dec 17, 2014 8:35 am

Boris2008 wrote:
Ozzy himself got horribly ripped off by managers, I suppose he just decided that the best way to not get screwed was to screw everyone else first. I don't buy into the idea that it's ALL Sharon and i think that Ozzy is just as bad as his wife.


I have to agree with this, if he told his wife, he pay the guy or give him his co-writing credits then she would have done that, the fact he stood by and let it happen, and let her take the blame, does not make him blameless.

It is clear it is a solo career, and if Randy Rhoads had lived, I am sure they would have attempted to screw him too.
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