W.A.S.P.

I think Blackie just loves the Who that much.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

I think Blackie just loves the Who that much.

Of course he does. They're more metal than KISS.

Blackie can really sing. The drums get old quick and the bass is where. I do like it so I'm going to give it a try. Maybe I'll work backwards through the catalog.

corplhicks wrote:

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

Headless Children and especially Crimson Idol are both desert island discs.

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era...

No Jon Lord, No Burn!

stormspell wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

BearOnUnicycle wrote:

Headless Children and especially Crimson Idol are both desert island discs.

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era...

I know, I know. Back to the unorthodox opinions thread!

corplhicks wrote:

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era. But these two--talk about a shifting current.

I'm interested to know what other records you think W.A.S.P's debut sounded like? There were a ton of Judas Priest, AC/DC and Iron Maiden copycat bands around, what is it about this record that you think is so unoriginal?

I can understand if you hate it, but I thought it was pretty unique for it's time.

Boris2008 wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era. But these two--talk about a shifting current.

I'm interested to know what other records you think W.A.S.P's debut sounded like? There were a ton of Judas Priest, AC/DC and Iron Maiden copycat bands around, what is it about this record that you think is so unoriginal?

I can understand if you hate it, but I thought it was pretty unique for it's time.

Kiss, Crue, Ratt, and Accept, although I get these bands were big around the time of WASP's debut. It's all in the songwriting for me, and Blackie seemed to drag his knuckles on the first one. But I certainly don't hate it. It just never did anything for me, it sounds so lackluster. IMHO.

I kind of get KISS and to a lesser extent Accept, but Crue & RATT!!!!

C'mon?

Boris2008 wrote:

I kind of get KISS and to a lesser extent Accept, but Crue & RATT!!!!

C'mon?

Early Crue & Ratt, Too Fast for Love and Out of the Cellar. I know, I know. This belongs in that good ol unorthodox thread.

Boris2008 wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era. But these two--talk about a shifting current.

I'm interested to know what other records you think W.A.S.P's debut sounded like? There were a ton of Judas Priest, AC/DC and Iron Maiden copycat bands around, what is it about this record that you think is so unoriginal?

I can understand if you hate it, but I thought it was pretty unique for it's time.

Blackie just plays the guts out of it. In the 80's he was pure animal - in the 90's he just got more progressive in his songwriting.

Chrome Locust wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

Their debut does nothing for me, one of the least original and inspired efforts I've heard from that era. But these two--talk about a shifting current.

I'm interested to know what other records you think W.A.S.P's debut sounded like? There were a ton of Judas Priest, AC/DC and Iron Maiden copycat bands around, what is it about this record that you think is so unoriginal?

I can understand if you hate it, but I thought it was pretty unique for it's time.

Blackie just plays the guts out of it. In the 80's he was pure animal - in the 90's he just got more progressive in his songwriting.

I agree, there was a rawness about that album and an intensity that really set them apart from the bands mentioned. Also Sleeping in the Fire was an incredibly mature ballad, maybe only Fade to Black was it's equal in my incredibly short list of metal ballads that didn't make me want to vomit.

I've seen video of 'The Torture Never Stops' being played on the current tour. They are a little wooden on stage, but I'm going to any Florida date once the U.S. leg kicks off.

journeyman wrote:

Blackie can really sing. The drums get old quick and the bass is where. I do like it so I'm going to give it a try. Maybe I'll work backwards through the catalog.

That is my only complaint about the Babylon album. The drumming is technically great but geez, do you have to solo through the whole song on every track?

To resurrect a (somewhat) old thread, I finally acquired some W.A.S.P. I got the Headless Children and absolutely love it. I just recently purchased Dying for the World and I'm loving it so far, as well! I suppose I have become a W.A.S.P. fan.

Headless Children is a great album and showed a more mature Blackie. DFTW is decent but not one I listen to much.

Dark Horseman wrote:

Headless Children is a great album and showed a more mature Blackie. DFTW is decent but not one I listen to much.

I hope to make my next purchase The Crimson Idol.

I got beat up on the regular in 7th grade for wearing my Headless Children t-shirt. I don't really think anything of the image, but I guess I can see wear people were coming from, with the Klan and such.

I don't think middle school kids think much about symbolism and ideas and concept and such. They just see that stuff and think racist. Plus it was like 1990/1991, at a predominantly "gangsta" school, in Dallas. There were barely 5 other metalheads.

But yeah, I took my lumps for my love of W.A.S.P. so they will always have a spot in my life.

That's dedication. More than I would have, because I'd stop wearing the shirt, LOL.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

I got beat up on the regular in 7th grade for wearing my Headless Children t-shirt. I don't really think anything of the image, but I guess I can see wear people were coming from, with the Klan and such.

I don't think middle school kids think much about symbolism and ideas and concept and such. They just see that stuff and think racist. Plus it was like 1990/1991, at a predominantly "gangsta" school, in Dallas. There were barely 5 other metalheads.

But yeah, I took my lumps for my love of W.A.S.P. so they will always have a spot in my life.

Yes. I got decried by black gang members and a militant (the Knights of Columbus type) Catholic teacher about my W.A.S.P. stuff meaning "white anglo saxon protestant" in some vague white supremacist sort of way. Cue ironic hilarity in 3, 2....

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

ZombieHavoc wrote:

I got beat up on the regular in 7th grade for wearing my Headless Children t-shirt. I don't really think anything of the image, but I guess I can see wear people were coming from, with the Klan and such.

I don't think middle school kids think much about symbolism and ideas and concept and such. They just see that stuff and think racist. Plus it was like 1990/1991, at a predominantly "gangsta" school, in Dallas. There were barely 5 other metalheads.

But yeah, I took my lumps for my love of W.A.S.P. so they will always have a spot in my life.

Yes. I got decried by black gang members and a militant (the Knights of Columbus type) Catholic teacher about my W.A.S.P. stuff meaning "white anglo saxon protestant" in some vague white supremacist sort of way. Cue ironic hilarity in 3, 2....

No, no, no.... WASP stands for We're A$$ Sucking Pansies......

80s Metal Lady wrote:

That's dedication. More than I would have, because I'd stop wearing the shirt, LOL.

Haha, dedication or stupidity.