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Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power were, and still are, [as well as "Far Beyond Driven", to a lesser extent] absolute classic True Metal albums. But, for whatever reason, METALHEADS [aka, those whom desire riffage] disregard Pantera. What's up with that?

I'll give you Cowboys but by Vulgar Phil had gone to almost all yelling and I find it annoying. I do like Walk though. Besides, Phil's an ass.

I love Cowboys, Vulgar, Driven and Trendkill.

I really enjoy the pre-Cowboys albums too.

I think the "old school" metal crowd lump them in with the new/nu metal crowd. And as such, they are disregarded. Besides, they started to suck real bad, real fast!

I liked Cowboys From Hell when it first came out. I liked about half of Vulgar Display of Power. Then when I bought Far Beyond Driven I liked about 3 songs. The law of diminishing returns was definitely at play so Pantera quickly went on my "ignore list". I haven't listened to them or owned any of their albums since around 1996 when my first "purge of the metal collection" took place.

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I liked Cowboys From Hell when it first came out. I liked about half of Vulgar Display of Power. Then when I bought Far Beyond Driven I liked about 3 songs. The law of diminishing returns was definitely at play so Pantera quickly went on my "ignore list".

Wut dis guy said, right here.

Fat Freddy wrote:

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I liked Cowboys From Hell when it first came out. I liked about half of Vulgar Display of Power. Then when I bought Far Beyond Driven I liked about 3 songs. The law of diminishing returns was definitely at play so Pantera quickly went on my "ignore list".

Wut dis guy said, right here.

You know what's funny? I could replace "Pearl Jam" for Pantera and it would be the same thing. Dug the first album, about half of the second and about 3 songs of the the third album...on the ignore list they went and stayed there.

I still like Pantera. Never liked Pearl Jam. Eddie Veder is a douche-nozzle.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I still like Pantera. Never liked Pearl Jam. Eddie Veder is a douche-nozzle.

Phil is Far Beyond Douche.

S.D. wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I still like Pantera. Never liked Pearl Jam. Eddie Veder is a douche-nozzle.

Phil is Far Beyond Douche.

This too is true, but for completely different reasons.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Never liked Pearl Jam. Eddie Veder is a douche-nozzle.

S.D. wrote:

Phil is Far Beyond Douche.

Agreed on both counts.

Though I think my hatred for Pearl Jam is based more on the fact that between 1992 and '95 or so, you could go to a dozen bars in my area on a Saturday night and see a dozen different cover bands badly playing the same Pearl Jam songs ("Evenflow," "Jeremy," etc.). I couldn't get away from 'em!!

MetalGuy71 wrote:

S.D. wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I still like Pantera. Never liked Pearl Jam. Eddie Veder is a douche-nozzle.

Phil is Far Beyond Douche.

This too is true, but for completely different reasons.

I'm not a fan of Vedder either, I should also mention that the Pearl Jam CDs were sold in the same purge in 1996 and I never re-purchased or listened to them since. The only album with Vedder I've heard in the past 15 years was the Temple Of The Dog album and I heard that at a friend's house about 5 years ago.

kmorg wrote:

I think the "old school" metal crowd lump them in with the new/nu metal crowd. And as such, they are disregarded. Besides, they started to suck real bad, real fast!

+1, its the guitar grooves we dont like.

krokus wrote:

kmorg wrote:

I think the "old school" metal crowd lump them in with the new/nu metal crowd. And as such, they are disregarded. Besides, they started to suck real bad, real fast!

+1, its the guitar grooves we dont like.

What exactly is it that you don't like about them? Can you name a couple examples. Just curious.

Pantera is one of my favorite bands. Cowboys and Vulgar are excellent, Far Beyond is good, Trendkill is too harsh for my tastes and Reinventing was a nice return to their earlier sound. Many metal fans will complain about Pantera's "tough guy" lyrics yet they find nothing wrong with the absurdities of puffy-shirted Euro Power Metal. I like songs about dragons just as much as songs about punching someone in the face, so I like power metal and Pantera. Now if someone would write a song about punching a dragon in the face I could die happy.

I don't care about the lyrics so much, though if you have to keep telling everyone how tough you are you might reconsider, but the abrasive yelling turned me off.

Dark Horseman wrote:

I don't care about the lyrics so much, though if you have to keep telling everyone how tough you are

I think alot of that was the whole "Don't Mess With Texas" bs attitude. The peeps in NYC and Venice just laugh at that, if they pay any attn' at all.

Because the people of New York don't have BS attitudes.

DallasBlack wrote:

Because the people of New York don't have BS attitudes.

It's a different aroma of BS...

Who loves CHF and Vulgar.....this guy.

Mmmmm... Pantera is Greatest hits band for sure and even then, not all the songs are worth the listen.

I thoroughly enjoy Cowboys From Hell. I really liked it when it first came out, and that hasn't changed. Vulgar Display of Power is also one I still enjoy, though to a lesser extent.

I like a few songs off of Far Beyond Driven, but outside of those few I can't sit and listen to the rest of the album.

Cowboys and vulgar are very good albums.

But i barely listen to them anymore. Can't stand Phil's screaming.

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

I thoroughly enjoy Cowboys From Hell. I really liked it when it first came out, and that hasn't changed. Vulgar Display of Power is also one I still enjoy, though to a lesser extent.

I like a few songs off of Far Beyond Driven, but outside of those few I can't sit and listen to the rest of the album.

Seems the general consensus. Planet Caravan, 5 Minutes Alone, and I'm Broken are the only real highlights of Far Beyond Driven IMO.

I'm kind of on the fence with Pantera. I don't love or hate them. They've got some songs that are pretty decent, my favorite of theirs being "Cemetary Gates".