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Dark Horseman wrote:
Exactly. People are dicks. I don't like the cartoony look but that's just me and since I wasn't consulted I won't complain. The music rocks and that's what matters.

I agree on all points!

You can please some people some of the time but never all people all of the time.Just keep doing what you love Ult!
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Dark Horseman wrote:
Exactly. People are dicks.
Talk about calling the kettle black!
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T-Roy wrote:
Dark Horseman wrote:
Exactly. People are dicks.
Talk about calling the kettle black!

Once you go black...

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Ult, I made one that you guys can use. Free of charge. You're welcome. Wink

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What's the spiritual meaning? I don't get it.
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T-Roy wrote:
What's the spiritual meaning? I don't get it.


"Come follow me and I'll make you french fries of men" I think that's the quote. Smile
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SpectreFate wrote:
Ult, I made one that you guys can use. Free of charge. You're welcome. Wink

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Best cover ever! Just one small change. You need to make it a GREEN shamrock shake! headbanger

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The none-more-black cover isn't black enough. Too gray. lol!

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stormspell wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
It should've been done the old school way (Oil or watercolor on canvass) to expose and highlight those subtle tones. Computer-generated paintings like that are too flat and cartoonish, altho the purpose obviously is, to make cheesy and cartoonish, BUT not overly flat ... Notice Repka's (?) use of harmonious color tones , It should be done that way...The Old school method is simply miles better dude.
What you say may have been valid in 2003 due to technology/medium restrictions, but not anymore. If you have the skills you can do everything digital now, and beyond. And for the record, that Repka drawing is digital too.
Precisely.

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These are the next Shock Totem releases. All digital.

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SpectreFate wrote:
Ult, I made one that you guys can use. Free of charge. You're welcome. Wink

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lol!

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Ult, either way you guys rule and I could care less what album cover is used. Keep the flame of metal burning brother! headbanger
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stormspell wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
It should've been done the old school way (Oil or watercolor on canvass) to expose and highlight those subtle tones. Computer-generated paintings like that are too flat and cartoonish, altho the purpose obviously is, to make cheesy and cartoonish, BUT not overly flat ... Notice Repka's (?) use of harmonious color tones , It should be done that way...The Old school method is simply miles better dude.

If you have the skills you can do everything digital now

I beg to disagree on that...You mean portrait paintings can be easily done thru computers? Oh come on...There is a HUUUUUGE difference between blending basic colors using oil vs copy/pasting/dragging on what colors the Computer is providing you.

You CANNOT replicate renaissance painting using computers! Razz

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EmoElmo wrote:
stormspell wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
It should've been done the old school way (Oil or watercolor on canvass) to expose and highlight those subtle tones. Computer-generated paintings like that are too flat and cartoonish, altho the purpose obviously is, to make cheesy and cartoonish, BUT not overly flat ... Notice Repka's (?) use of harmonious color tones , It should be done that way...The Old school method is simply miles better dude.

If you have the skills you can do everything digital now

I beg to disagree on that...You mean portrait paintings can be easily done thru computers? Oh come on...There is a HUUUUUGE difference between blending basic colors using oil vs copy/pasting/dragging on what colors the Computer is providing you.

You CANNOT replicate renaissance painting using computers! Razz
Dude, stop. You're wrong. The medium is different, of course, but if you're skilled enough, you can make a digital piece of art look exactly like a real painting. Obviously if one were to scrutinize each up close, the difference would be clear, as digital "paintings" are flat.

But if you stepped back a few feet, you'd never know the difference.

And blending digital colors is no different than blending paint colors.


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Eyesore wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
stormspell wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
It should've been done the old school way (Oil or watercolor on canvass) to expose and highlight those subtle tones. Computer-generated paintings like that are too flat and cartoonish, altho the purpose obviously is, to make cheesy and cartoonish, BUT not overly flat ... Notice Repka's (?) use of harmonious color tones , It should be done that way...The Old school method is simply miles better dude.

If you have the skills you can do everything digital now

I beg to disagree on that...You mean portrait paintings can be easily done thru computers? Oh come on...There is a HUUUUUGE difference between blending basic colors using oil vs copy/pasting/dragging on what colors the Computer is providing you.

You CANNOT replicate renaissance painting using computers! Razz
Dude, stop. You're wrong. The medium is different, of course, but if you're skilled enough, you can make a digital piece of art look exactly like a real painting. Obviously if one were to scrutinize each up close, the difference would be clear, as digital "paintings" are flat.

But if you stepped back a few feet, you'd never know the difference.

And blending digital colors is no different than blending paint colors.


Well the argument here is "you can do everything digital now"

I'm just stressing my point. It ain't possible. ever. I'm not saying that I have a trained eye, but I can clearly see it, some can't...
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Quote :

Dark Horseman wrote:
Exactly. People are dicks.
Talk about calling the kettle black!

I never said nuthin bout no kettle.
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EmoElmo wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
stormspell wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
It should've been done the old school way (Oil or watercolor on canvass) to expose and highlight those subtle tones. Computer-generated paintings like that are too flat and cartoonish, altho the purpose obviously is, to make cheesy and cartoonish, BUT not overly flat ... Notice Repka's (?) use of harmonious color tones , It should be done that way...The Old school method is simply miles better dude.

If you have the skills you can do everything digital now

I beg to disagree on that...You mean portrait paintings can be easily done thru computers? Oh come on...There is a HUUUUUGE difference between blending basic colors using oil vs copy/pasting/dragging on what colors the Computer is providing you.

You CANNOT replicate renaissance painting using computers! Razz
Dude, stop. You're wrong. The medium is different, of course, but if you're skilled enough, you can make a digital piece of art look exactly like a real painting. Obviously if one were to scrutinize each up close, the difference would be clear, as digital "paintings" are flat.

But if you stepped back a few feet, you'd never know the difference.

And blending digital colors is no different than blending paint colors.
Well the argument here is "you can do everything digital now"

I'm just stressing my point. It ain't possible. ever. I'm not saying that I have a trained eye, but I can clearly see it, some can't...
Then you're arguing semantics. Paint is paint, after all. And I can guarantee that you can't see it. You've viewed countless album covers that are not paintings and you never knew. =)

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Elmo, I'm talking about drawings which are painted by hand using tablet and painter or photoshop software - you can do everything if you are skilled enough. There are canvases and brush/spatula tools which emulate virtually the same results like the real deal. If you are copy/pasting type of an "artist" then obviously you cannot.

You obviously cannot see it clearly, since thinking Repka's art is traditional medium... but let's have a small game. Here's an artwork, you tell me if it is trad or digital. To help you out I'll also post several close-ups to see it very clearly in detail. Here goes:



P.S. sorry for hijacking the thread. Moderators please feel free to separate this into a new topic, thanks!

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What i really wanna know is............................ what is the shirt gonna look like surprised

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Love it or hate it, We love it! We are very happy with the cover art David and Scott came up with! We will be doing a Special Limited Edition T-Shirt with the cover art as well as the CD!

Also...

Today is the day! At 9pm PST the Limited Edition Roxx Boxx set will go on sale! Keep your eyes posted! Also the eBay auction for Roxx Boxx #1 benefiting Sanctuary International homeless project The Bridge Bunch' starts tonight! Links to all will be shared this evening!

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Thanks for the link Bill....kewl stuff

I was part of Long Hairs For Christ back when I first started serving God. We handed out sandwiches to homeless peopkle in Hollywood. (prayed with them too) I was also always playing at The Oasis down on the strip. A coffee/donut house for homelesss people to hang out with a few christian metal bands playing every week-end. Great Times ! Glad to see they are still keeping it up.

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This sucks! I got sidetracked and they're no longer availiable! Damn my memory!

angry angry angry angry angry

huh?

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isnt 9 Pacific time 12am EST?

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