Subject: Bad re-recordings Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:37 pm
Songs that in you opinion were made less enjoyable or just flat out ruined by a re-recording.
Original
Remake
stormspell Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:33 pm
Well, I did not have the guts to hear the remake, but I made it to the solo on the original and it became painfully apparent why the band wanted this remade...
Very poor man's Bal Sagoth, this band.
GrandNational Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:03 am
Maybe not a bad re-recording, but an unnecessary one:
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:22 am
GrandNational wrote:
Maybe not a bad re-recording, but an unnecessary one:
It may have been unnecessary... but i'm glad they did it. At the time the original was either out of print or hard to find. And it doesn't hurt to have a punchier, more "metal infused" version to listen to... (in addition to the original)
Ever notice Tom Araya's walk by cameo in the original video?
Grimmo Metal graduate
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:23 am
Some of the tracks on Megadeth's Rust In Piece could technically be re-recordings, since Dave recorded new vocals. I prefer the original version of this classic thrash masterpiece.
GrandNational Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:30 pm
Troublezone wrote:
Ever notice Tom Araya's walk by cameo in the original video?
I hadn't noticed, that was cool. And I agree that the re-recording is punchier, but the original has that old-school charm, plus Mike is so much younger, so it's more convincing.
arachnoplasma Metal student
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:49 pm
What about Helloween's Unarmed album?
I hate it most when bands re-record their classic albums. It's like remaking a classic movie, it's just pointless. I'll take the original recordings of Exodus' Bonded by Blood and Manowar's Battle Hymns, with their characteristic flaws and all.
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:58 pm
I know most people won't agree but TESTAMENT's "First Strike Still Deadly" was disappointing.
The solos, which were a highlight of the first two albums, sound MUCH worse.
The drums were much better as was the production but I don't think the downtuning improved those songs much. Also didn't think the vocals were quite as good.
exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:00 pm
arachnoplasma wrote:
What about Helloween's Unarmed album?
I hate it most when bands re-record their classic albums. It's like remaking a classic movie, it's just pointless. I'll take the original recordings of Exodus' Bonded by Blood and Manowar's Battle Hymns, with their characteristic flaws and all.
to be honest, I didnt have any hope for Unarmed but it is pretty decent.
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Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:06 am
Temple of Blood wrote:
I know most people won't agree but TESTAMENT's "First Strike Still Deadly" was disappointing.
The solos, which were a highlight of the first two albums, sound MUCH worse.
The drums were much better as was the production but I don't think the downtuning improved those songs much. Also didn't think the vocals were quite as good.
And the songs seem to be played a little slower... I wish they had just remastered the original two albums instead.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:08 am
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I agree that the re-recording is punchier, but the original has that old-school charm, plus Mike is so much younger, so it's more convincing.
Yeah, the youthful charm of the original is classic and can't be recaptured. But I have both versions, so I'm happy.
Jesusandmetal23 If it jams it jams
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:53 am
Rob Dukes' vocals on the Bonded by Blood tracks are horrific. Completely ruins a classic album.
Also the Anthrax album with Bush's vocals on the Turbin/Belladonna tracks, completely unnecessary. Thinking of this one in particular:
Gilbert Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:15 am
Grimmo wrote:
Some of the tracks on Megadeth's Rust In Piece could technically be re-recordings, since Dave recorded new vocals. I prefer the original version of this classic thrash masterpiece.
I totally agree. The original recording has a genuine sound, even if rawer.
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:48 am
Troublezone wrote:
GrandNational wrote:
Maybe not a bad re-recording, but an unnecessary one:
It may have been unnecessary... but i'm glad they did it. At the time the original was either out of print or hard to find. And it doesn't hurt to have a punchier, more "metal infused" version to listen to... (in addition to the original)
Ever notice Tom Araya's walk by cameo in the original video?
An absurdly overrate album, re-recorded or not.
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:53 am
exact33 wrote:
arachnoplasma wrote:
What about Helloween's Unarmed album?
I hate it most when bands re-record their classic albums. It's like remaking a classic movie, it's just pointless. I'll take the original recordings of Exodus' Bonded by Blood and Manowar's Battle Hymns, with their characteristic flaws and all.
to be honest, I didnt have any hope for Unarmed but it is pretty decent.
I think Unarmed is great. They weren't trying to recapture the sound of those original songs, they totally re-invented them. Like them or not, it was pretty cool what they did.
And I think the songs on First Strike Still Deadly blow the originals away. I wish they'd re-record all those albums that way. Haha.
ultmetal Administrator
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:20 am
Eyesore wrote:
exact33 wrote:
arachnoplasma wrote:
What about Helloween's Unarmed album?
I hate it most when bands re-record their classic albums. It's like remaking a classic movie, it's just pointless. I'll take the original recordings of Exodus' Bonded by Blood and Manowar's Battle Hymns, with their characteristic flaws and all.
to be honest, I didnt have any hope for Unarmed but it is pretty decent.
I think Unarmed is great. They weren't trying to recapture the sound of those original songs, they totally re-invented them. Like them or not, it was pretty cool what they did.
And I think the songs on First Strike Still Deadly blow the originals away. I wish they'd re-record all those albums that way. Haha.
I love "First Strike Still Deadly".
Most fans seem to hate Anthrax "The Greater of Two Evils" as well, but I think it's outstanding.
I also like Twisted Sister's "Still Hungry", though I think the original version of "The Price" off of "Stay Hungry" is better than the re-recorded version. I wouldn't say they ruined the song, but the vocal performance just isn't as strong IMO.
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Smindas Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:26 am
First Strike Still Deadly pretty much beats the originals for me, but then I always thought early Testament records (especially the debut) sounded a bit flat production wise. The only thing that bothered me about it is that Zetro Souza does the vocals on 'Alone In The Dark'. Whilst it's good with him, around that time Chuck Billy was doing the song like this;
Absolutely monstrous.
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:33 am
I'm a bit biased, but I love the re-recorded version of this song over the original: Original:
Re-recorded:
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Joe Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:00 pm
Smindas wrote:
The only thing that bothered me about it is that Zetro Souza does the vocals on 'Alone In The Dark'.
I agree. I liked FIRST STRIKE STILL DEADLY, but prefer the originals. The only other gripe would be that with the new production, and the downtuned guitars, it kind of made the songs all sound the same.
metalhead777 Metal master
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:51 pm
Jesusandmetal23 wrote:
Rob Dukes' vocals on the Bonded by Blood tracks are horrific. Completely ruins a classic album.
Really? I'm going to get allot of crap for this but I HATED the original Bonded by Blood. Actually,I think Paul Baloff was a terrible vocalist in general.
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:58 pm
metalhead777 wrote:
Actually,I think Paul Baloff was a terrible vocalist in general.
Agreed. But some of those songs were really good.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:12 am
Eyesore wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
GrandNational wrote:
Maybe not a bad re-recording, but an unnecessary one:
It may have been unnecessary... but i'm glad they did it. At the time the original was either out of print or hard to find. And it doesn't hurt to have a punchier, more "metal infused" version to listen to... (in addition to the original)
Ever notice Tom Araya's walk by cameo in the original video?
An absurdly overrate album, re-recorded or not.
I disagree. It's a classic and had better musicianship than any punk band before.
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:37 am
I won't disagree with that, but I think it's weak album given it's classic status. I like it, don't get me wrong, but don't find it nearly as good as people say it is. Join the Army through The Art of Rebellion is when Suicidal was great.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:09 am
Eyesore wrote:
I won't disagree with that, but I think it's weak album given it's classic status. I like it, don't get me wrong, but don't find it nearly as good as people say it is. Join the Army through The Art of Rebellion is when Suicidal was great.
Yeah, I like the Rocky George years the best too... but the original album has a certain feel to it that was great.
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DallasBlack Zooey Addict
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Subject: Re: Bad re-recordings Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:15 pm
Troublezone wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
I won't disagree with that, but I think it's weak album given it's classic status. I like it, don't get me wrong, but don't find it nearly as good as people say it is. Join the Army through The Art of Rebellion is when Suicidal was great.
Yeah, I like the Rocky George years the best too... but that album has a certain feel to it that was great (at that moment in time).
Rocky is one of my favorite guitarists of all time. Sucks that after SS broke up, he went away from metal.