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holydiver97595 The Prophet of Dio
Number of posts : 1348 Age : 29
| Subject: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:57 pm | |
| I know it's tough to tell, and these genres are sometimes quite vague, but what do you all think was the first power metal band in existence? The earliest I have is 1987 with Savatage's Hall Of The Mountain King. Is there much else that's earlier? Thanks in advance!
EDIT: My library was screwed up due to some update; anyway, Helloween's Walls Of Jericho is my first. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:13 pm | |
| Metal Church released in 1984 as did Omen's, Battle Cry. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:17 pm | |
| - TheNazgul wrote:
- Metal Church released in 1984 as did Omen's, Battle Cry.
and Helstar's Burning Star |
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A Handful of Wayne Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 7685 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:26 pm | |
| Well there are 2 different types of Power Metal (which I learned, on here) US Power Metal and Euro Power Metal.
I still don't believe in the US Power Metal to me it was either Heavy Metal or Thrash. Anyway.... I think I'm with you Helloween's Walls Of Jericho was the first Power Metal album. _________________ | |
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romeolimagolf Metal student
Number of posts : 204 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:32 pm | |
| that depends on your defenition of Power Metal doesn't it? As I understand it, "Power Metal" was a term originally used to describe a more aggressive, thrash style of metal, and not the flowery, happy metal with songs about unicorns and dragons that we know and love today. So do you go with the original definition or the modern one? If you go with the original, the first band to call themselves "power metal" I believe were Pantera. | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:38 pm | |
| Power metal was those bands that were too fast/heavy for traditional heavy metal but not quite as fast/heavy as thrash bands, thus POWER metal.
Metal Church were the very definition of Power Metal. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1268 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:40 pm | |
| - romeolimagolf wrote:
- that depends on your defenition of Power Metal doesn't it? As I understand it, "Power Metal" was a term originally used to describe a more aggressive, thrash style of metal, and not the flowery, happy metal with songs about unicorns and dragons that we know and love today. So do you go with the original definition or the modern one? If you go with the original, the first band to call themselves "power metal" I believe were Pantera.
yeah, back in the mid 80's I was taught that Power Metal was stuff like Metal Church, Master Of Puppets type stuff. Fast-forward years later and people are calling power metal stuff the European speed type stuff so I dont even know what the heck it is anymore. So I'm assuming that under the old definition, it would be Metal Church's s/t album. Under the newer definition, I suppose I would go with Helloween's Walls, or even their s/t album with Starlight, Murderer, etc... I know that Ult wrote a big post once that was pretty much spot-on about the history of thrash, power, speed, etc...Maybe it's time for a refresher course there pal | |
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Gilbert Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 9948 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:49 am | |
| I think it has to be Metal church.
I was listening to blessing in disguise on my way to work this morning.
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exact33 The King
Number of posts : 23281 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:15 am | |
| - Gilbert wrote:
- I think it has to be Metal church.
I was listening to blessing in disguise on my way to work this morning.
Great album!! I would go with Helloween personally but Metal church is a good pick too.. _________________ | |
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007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40982 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:15 am | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- Power metal was those bands that were too fast/heavy for traditional heavy metal but not quite as fast/heavy as thrash bands, thus POWER metal.
Metal Church were the very definition of Power Metal. The first and the best , as far as I'm concerned. (Helloween ain't too shabby either) | |
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Gilbert Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 9948 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:52 am | |
| Walls of jericho is also outstanding.
Although i'm more of the Deris era fan. | |
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Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:02 pm | |
| As far as what most people nowadays call "power metal" the first (and best) band would be HELLOWEEN.
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metalhead777 Metal master
Number of posts : 842 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:29 pm | |
| Possibly omen...I'm not quite sure what the TRUE first would be! | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:55 pm | |
| I vaguely remember Metallica being called "Power Metal" back in the KILL'EM ALL days... _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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allthingsmetal Metal student
Number of posts : 231 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:33 pm | |
| Flotsam and Jetsam referred to themselves as 'power metal' on their first album--but it doen't really apply. I would go with Helloween. And if we boiled it down one more degree, we'd find Iron Maiden. | |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 13862 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:35 pm | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- I vaguely remember Metallica being called "Power Metal" back in the KILL'EM ALL days...
They had a demo named "power metal", before Kill 'em All. _________________ | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:40 pm | |
| - kmorg wrote:
- Fat Freddy wrote:
- I vaguely remember Metallica being called "Power Metal" back in the KILL'EM ALL days...
They had a demo named "power metal", before Kill 'em All. Well, there you go. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:57 pm | |
| There are some goofy songs in Iron Maiden's discography that would fit nicely under the power metal umbrella; "Flash Of The Blade", "Sun And Steel", "The Duellists", "Quest For Fire"...all the cheesy imagery and overly catchy pop-influenced arrangements scream today's definition of "Power Metal". |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:03 pm | |
| - detuned wrote:
- There are some goofy songs in Iron Maiden's discography that would fit nicely under the power metal umbrella; "Flash Of The Blade", "Sun And Steel", "The Duellists", "Quest For Fire"...all the cheesy imagery and overly catchy pop-influenced arrangements scream today's definition of "Power Metal".
"In the daaaaayyyyyys when di-no-saurs walked the earrrrrrrrrth...." _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
Number of posts : 12874 Age : 60
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:51 pm | |
| Savage Grace was "borderline" speed/power metal on "Scepters of Deceit" Metal Massacre II (1982) and "The Dominatress" EP (1983)
Again, all dependes on what "is"... is _________________ | |
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firestarter Metal student
Number of posts : 109 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:35 pm | |
| From what we called Power Metal in the 80s, the earliest albums would be:
Hawaii - One Nation Underground (83) Wild Dogs - Wild Dogs (83) | |
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metalken Metal master
Number of posts : 820 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:43 pm | |
| - firestarter wrote:
- From what we called Power Metal in the 80s, the earliest albums would be:
Hawaii - One Nation Underground (83) Wild Dogs - Wild Dogs (83) I have not heard these two in over 20 years, but if memory serves me, I would whole heartedly agree. | |
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Lari Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6398 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:48 am | |
| Rainbow - Long Live Rock'n'Roll
Songs like Kill the King were totally power metal and influential to what became the European power metal scene. | |
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mlotek Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1226 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:09 am | |
| ahhh, yes, plodding songs like Rainbow's "Stargazer" could almost fit the Power Metal category That song structure/style seems to be what I think of when I hear the term.
Though a lot of the bands mentioned and more - Metallica, Omen, Metal Church, Overkill, Exciter, Liege Lord, Jag Panzer, etc all used to be labelled Power Metal right before the term "thrash metal" seemed to be mentioned everywhere almost overnight when I looked in fanzines and mags in 1985, and The Big Four were the bands to be compared to if they fit the genre. | |
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labrekk Metal novice
Number of posts : 64 Age : 55
| Subject: Re: First power metal band EVER? Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:48 am | |
| One of the first power metal discs for me came from France in 1983. The H-BOMB - Coup De Metal EP. This was one of the first with speedy double bass stuff. | |
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