Balck Sabbath: The eternal idol

What do you think of this album?

Being a huge fan of Tony Martin's era, i finally got it, and been enjoying it for the last two days.

Iommy's solo on Glory Ride is chilling, don't you agree?

Just bought the remastered version recently. I like it a lot!

Tony Martin is a great singer.

out of all the Tony Martin albums, i prefer The Headless Cross, but Idol isn't bad.

I think Headless Cross and The Eternal Idol are the best of the Tony Martin albums. But all of them except Forbidden are very good.

One of my favourite Sabbath albums. The best with Tony on vocals

I like it a lot, but prefer Headless Cross.

tony Martin is a great singer for sure and I love Eternal Idol. I prefer Headless Cross more, and Forbidden is not upto the mark in his Black Sabbath catalog.

It's better than a lot of stuff out these days.

I'm not a fan. Cross Purposes in the only Tony Martin era album that I enjoy.

MEGATRON wrote:

I'm not a fan. Cross Purposes in the only Tony Martin era album that I enjoy.

What about that album is so different from the ones before it? They all have a similar quality except Forbidden... which has horrible production and subpar material.

Cross Purpose & Headless Cross only

I love 'The Eternal Idol' and it is my favorite from Black Sabbath's Tony Martin era

Love the Tony Martin albums... apart from Forbidden that is. Tyr is my favorite. Valhalla is such an epic song.

Dave the Boss wrote:

Love the Tony Martin albums... apart from Forbidden that is. Tyr is my favorite. Valhalla is such an epic song.

'Forbidden' is the huge turd in the Black Sabbath punch bowl

Agreed. Imo it's the only Sabbath album not worth owning.

K-Octave was working on a cover of "Hard Life To Love" back in 2002...that was a fun song to sing.

Tony Martin rules...end of story.

Eternal Idol is a great cd. I love all the Tony Martin era cds...including Forbidden ! (ducks for cover)

I think that if Forbidden had not had the Ice-T cameo, people would have a different opinion of it.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I think that if Forbidden had not had the Ice-T cameo, people would have a different opinion of it.

No I don't think so because Ice-T is only on one song, IMO the songs ae just not very memorable and I think that is the main problem with 'Forbidden'

I don't know. I think both Forbidden and Kiss of Death are standout tracks.

Guess it's just me

As a long-time fan of Tony Martin, and more recently a friend, I really like seeing the appreciation that you guys have for his talent.

Too often he suffers unfair and ridiculous criticisms from fans of the other eras.

Tony Martin was the extraordinary voice on these albums, but for those who don't like them, the presence of the others singers wouldn't likely have changed that, except in the cases where people were determined to dislike anything "not Ozzy".

Troublezone wrote:

MEGATRON wrote:

I'm not a fan. Cross Purposes in the only Tony Martin era album that I enjoy.

What about that album is so different from the ones before it? They all have a similar quality except Forbidden... which has horrible production and subpar material.

Tony's voice fits the music in Cross Purposes better than any other "Sabbath" album he sang on. Plus, having Geezer back in the band during the writing/recording of the album made it an even stronger effort.

Tony's my favourite Sabbath singer (yes, i think he's better then Ozzy)

The only album i still don't own is forbidden.

I've been seeing it on the shelves for a while, bu still hesitate to get it.

I need some encouragement, although i'm sure it's gonna be gone one day and i'll regret
not having it.

Bite the bullet and pick it up.

There are a few really strong performances on there.

Some people actually really like it. Tony Martin does not, I think you can hear in his voice that things were not the same behind the scenes.

It does not live up to the prior albums by any stretch, but I think Iommi and Ernie C have to take the blame for the results.

Troublezone wrote:

MEGATRON wrote:

I'm not a fan. Cross Purposes in the only Tony Martin era album that I enjoy.

What about that album is so different from the ones before it? They all have a similar quality except Forbidden... which has horrible production and subpar material.

I think they were on a creative roll from Dehumanizer. If you listen to Strange Highways (Dio) and Cross Purposes (Sabbath), both of which came after Dehumanizer, you can hear the carryover from the creative epicness of Dehumanizer. Overall, I think Cross Purposes is heavier and even darker than any of the other Martin-era albums.