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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:52 pm | |
| Yeah, this label things gets weird. I use it more to give a context, bands sounds cross the boundaries all the time. I see Metal Church get labeled thrash a lot though I don't consider them that. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:59 pm | |
| I noticed last night that the Sardonyx Majestic Serenity reissue is labeled as thrash. Not in my book it isn't. |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37953 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:05 pm | |
| Metal Church tends to get lumped in with the thrash bands a lot ... I'd say that had their thrashy moments here and there (especially on their first two albums) but I wouldn't classify them as an out-and-out "thrash" band. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- Metal Church tends to get lumped in with the thrash bands a lot ... I'd say that had their thrashy moments here and there (especially on their first two albums) but I wouldn't classify them as an out-and-out "thrash" band.
Right. They weren't quite thrash, yet they had some tendencies towards thrash metal which put them outside the traditional heavy metal genre, thus they were POWER METAL. How power metal became this flowery crap like Kamelot is beyond me. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:30 pm | |
| People call Ultimatum thrash, but I tend to think you guys are a power metal band. Anybody with me? |
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Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:32 pm | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- How power metal became this flowery crap like Kamelot is beyond me.
To try to give the music credibility. Same reason a lot of genres are called "metal" but aren't. | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37953 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:35 pm | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- How power metal became this flowery crap like Kamelot is beyond me.
During the 90s, the Europeans tagged bands like Helloween, HammerFall, etc. as "power metal" while we here in the U.S. weren't looking. By the time we found out about that, it was too late and the label stuck. - SpectreFate wrote:
- People call Ultimatum thrash, but I tend to think you guys are a power metal band. Anybody with me?
I always thought they were more of an epic symphonic power/speed/thrash/polka/grindcore combo with just a hint of mint. Y'know, for flavor. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:48 pm | |
| - SpectreFate wrote:
- People call Ultimatum thrash, but I tend to think you guys are a power metal band. Anybody with me?
Sure. We combine elements of traditional metal and thrash. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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exact33 The King
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| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| Armory Ravage _________________ | |
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Ultimate.Nightmare Metal novice
Number of posts : 96 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:31 am | |
| I always considered power metal to be the fist pumping, galloping, catchy hooks and chorus sounding metal. In that case, you could very well put Bon Jovi in league with bands like Running Wild. But not always the "clean vocals". Grave Digger gets lumped into the power metal category nowadays, mainly around the "Middle Ages Trilogy" to current. Before that, they straddled the sound- Like Metal Church, I just considered them to be 'metal', as a general term, like Omen, Hallows Eve and Sanctuary. Virgin Steele became more symphony sounding, but not like Rhapsody (of Fire). Is Virgin Steele power metal, like the Kamelot's "flower crap"? (great term by the way). Or Manowar, great power, great sound and singing but a little repetitive and homo-erotic at times, but that's a different topic. Where does one draw the line in power metal as a general term and an EXACT definition with bands that everyone can agree on? | |
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Dave the Boss Metal is in my blood
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| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:37 am | |
| I usually call pretty much everything from America that isn't thrash and isn't straight heavy metal US metal. | |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 13862 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:44 am | |
| - Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- kmorg wrote:
- Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- What makes Saint "Power Metal" and Armored Saint not?
I love semantics...
In this day and age, anything with clean vocals that's not "Hair Metal" gets called Power Metal by someone, somewhere. I've seen people include Iced Earth and Nevermore in Power Metal discussions when I myself do not consider them to be.
While I also disagree that Iced Earth and Nevermore are power metal, they at least fit the original context of the term. They can best be desrcribed as heavier than classic metal but not as heavy as thrash. Both bands use thrash metal elements (mostly riffs), but is clearly not thrash bands. Nevermore is heavier than most Thrash bands...Iced Earth sounds more like Puppets era Metallica (before Schaffer added all those epic symphonies) than anything close to Power Metal...If Iced Earth had put out Something Wicked in 1987, it would have been labelled Thrash... Eh, no? _________________ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:48 am | |
| I didn't want a debate, I wanted bands. Bands, you hear me, bands!! Kidding, it's cool but are there any others, even from Europe but have the sound? |
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Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:58 am | |
| - kmorg wrote:
- Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- kmorg wrote:
- Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- What makes Saint "Power Metal" and Armored Saint not?
I love semantics...
In this day and age, anything with clean vocals that's not "Hair Metal" gets called Power Metal by someone, somewhere. I've seen people include Iced Earth and Nevermore in Power Metal discussions when I myself do not consider them to be.
While I also disagree that Iced Earth and Nevermore are power metal, they at least fit the original context of the term. They can best be desrcribed as heavier than classic metal but not as heavy as thrash. Both bands use thrash metal elements (mostly riffs), but is clearly not thrash bands. Nevermore is heavier than most Thrash bands...Iced Earth sounds more like Puppets era Metallica (before Schaffer added all those epic symphonies) than anything close to Power Metal...If Iced Earth had put out Something Wicked in 1987, it would have been labelled Thrash... Eh, no? Sure it would have...put Something Wicked next to Ride The Lightning or Master Of Puppets and they're not too different, IMO. IE has a lot of 80s Thrash influence...that much can't be denied...so much so that IMO they're not a Power Metal band. "Disciples Of The Lie" especially... How about we compromise and call it "Power Thrash Metal"? _________________ FINAL SIGN
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Required Fields Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:00 pm | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- Metal Church tends to get lumped in with the thrash bands a lot ... I'd say that had their thrashy moments here and there (especially on their first two albums) but I wouldn't classify them as an out-and-out "thrash" band.
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kmorg Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 13862 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:56 pm | |
| - Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- kmorg wrote:
- Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- kmorg wrote:
- Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- What makes Saint "Power Metal" and Armored Saint not?
I love semantics...
In this day and age, anything with clean vocals that's not "Hair Metal" gets called Power Metal by someone, somewhere. I've seen people include Iced Earth and Nevermore in Power Metal discussions when I myself do not consider them to be.
While I also disagree that Iced Earth and Nevermore are power metal, they at least fit the original context of the term. They can best be desrcribed as heavier than classic metal but not as heavy as thrash. Both bands use thrash metal elements (mostly riffs), but is clearly not thrash bands. Nevermore is heavier than most Thrash bands...Iced Earth sounds more like Puppets era Metallica (before Schaffer added all those epic symphonies) than anything close to Power Metal...If Iced Earth had put out Something Wicked in 1987, it would have been labelled Thrash... Eh, no? Sure it would have...put Something Wicked next to Ride The Lightning or Master Of Puppets and they're not too different, IMO. IE has a lot of 80s Thrash influence...that much can't be denied...so much so that IMO they're not a Power Metal band. "Disciples Of The Lie" especially... How about we compromise and call it "Power Thrash Metal"? Can't remember the name of it right now, but I've read a book where he claims that thrash metal was actually called power metal before the term thrash became the standard. Metallica had a demo named "Power Metal". So what would you call Iced Earth and Nevermore then. Armageddon (had to throw a name out there) _________________ | |
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Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:12 pm | |
| - Quote :
- So what would you call Iced Earth and Nevermore then.
Metal _________________ FINAL SIGN
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Thrasher73 Much Cooler than the other 72
Number of posts : 8918 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| - Shawn Of Fire wrote:
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- So what would you call Iced Earth and Nevermore then.
Metal Good Answer! | |
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Thrasher73 Much Cooler than the other 72
Number of posts : 8918 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:50 pm | |
| Since we're on the subject of classifying bands,How would you guys classify bands like Early Man,The Sword,High On Fire and the such? | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:53 pm | |
| - Quote :
- How would you guys classify bands like Early Man,The Sword,High On Fire and the such?
They go in the "F**KING AWESOME" category. _________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:01 pm | |
| - Thrasher73 wrote:
- Since we're on the subject of classifying bands,How would you guys classify bands like Early Man,The Sword,High On Fire and the such?
Metal _________________ FINAL SIGN
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Thrasher73 Much Cooler than the other 72
Number of posts : 8918 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:14 pm | |
| I knew I could count on you guys,Haha! | |
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bassman Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1939 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:13 pm | |
| How about Recon or Sacred Warrior? | |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 13862 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:10 am | |
| - bassman wrote:
- How about Recon or Sacred Warrior?
I always considered them both to progressive heavy metal. _________________ | |
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troublemagnet Metal Conspiracist
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| Subject: Re: List american power metal bands. Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:04 pm | |
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