Dream Theater's Mike Portnoy to play drums on new Avenged Sevenfold album

I'll check this out but i don't think the drums alone will make this a masterpiece. The singer is terrible...

Troublezone wrote:

I'll check this out but i don't think the drums alone will make this a masterpiece. The singer is terrible...

I'll definitely be picking this up. I like A7X now that the singer actually "sings" instead of screaming.

tohostudios wrote:

I'll definitely be picking this up. I like A7X now that the singer actually "sings" instead of screaming.

He has gotten a little better over time...but he still has kind of an annoying tone. The band has serious chops though...

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tohostudios wrote:

I'll definitely be picking this up. I like A7X now that the singer actually "sings" instead of screaming.

He has gotten a little better over time...but he still has kind of an annoying tone. The band has serious chops though...

Yeah, I can see where some might find his tone annoying. I still say he sounds like Mike Patton to my ears.

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Yeah, I can see where some might find his tone annoying. I still say he sounds like Mike Patton to my ears.

That's a bit of a stretch... maybe when Patton sings off key on purpose.

Mike will fit very well with these talented guys. I dont know why Shadows gets all this terrible singer criticism. The man never said he was a world class singer and he fits them very well IMO. Sure there are times when he comes across whiny but if you read that in interviews its meant to be that way.

The music and songwriting is top notch to me and that takes away most of what I find annoying

MetalRob331 wrote:

Mike will fit very well with these talented guys. I dont know why Shadows gets all this terrible singer criticism. The man never said he was a world class singer and he fits them very well IMO. Sure there are times when he comes across whiny but if you read that in interviews its meant to be that way.

The music and songwriting is top notch to me and that takes away most of what I find annoying

It's just a taste issue, really...it just doesn't hit me right...

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

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Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

It didn't hurt that their fan base is mostly teenage girls that watch mtv. They had a modern bad boy persona going on...

Troublezone wrote:

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Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

It didn't hurt that their fan base is mostly teenage girls that watch mtv. They had a modern bad boy persona going on...

You just described Motley Crue circa 1986...

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Troublezone wrote:

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Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

It didn't hurt that their fan base is mostly teenage girls that watch mtv. They had a modern bad boy persona going on...

You just described Motley Crue circa 1986...

Maybe, but they were shooting for GN'R worship.

Troublezone wrote:

S wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

S wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

It didn't hurt that their fan base is mostly teenage girls that watch mtv. They had a modern bad boy persona going on...

You just described Motley Crue circa 1986...

Maybe, but they were shooting for GN'R worship.

A7X? Yeah...they do play dress up quite heavily...

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Troublezone wrote:

S wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

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Troublezone wrote:

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The man never said he was a world class singer

That's true but it won't excuse him from criticism from people that hear their music. Some like him and others don't...

Exactly. They sell a lot of records so somebody obviously likes the way he sings...no biggie that some don't...doesn't make one right and one wrong.

It didn't hurt that their fan base is mostly teenage girls that watch mtv. They had a modern bad boy persona going on...

You just described Motley Crue circa 1986...

Maybe, but they were shooting for GN'R worship.

A7X? Yeah...they do play dress up quite heavily...

The singer admitted that their biggest influence growing up was Metallica's Black album and Guns N' Roses. He even wears a bandana like his hero with the cop glasses.

this thread = proof that there will always be more general discussion about a band with more hype, no matter how serious or banal..even by the metal fans

eh. im not a huge fan of either band since there newer releases.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

this thread = proof that there will always be more general discussion about a band with more hype, no matter how serious or banal..even by the metal fans

Still got your Word Of The Day calendar, I see?

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Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

this thread = proof that there will always be more general discussion about a band with more hype, no matter how serious or banal..even by the metal fans

Still got your Word Of The Day calendar, I see?

I'm such a huge fan of DT/Portnoy that I picked it up out of pure support.

Overall I find it to be alright: I own far worse albums -- some of the songs are catchy others I immediately skip.

It isn't something that I would listen to with much regularity, but as something to come across in a play list now and then to mix things up I can dig it.