Ozzy Osbourne names new album....

manny wrote:

I have not given up on Ozzy and his last album 'Black Rain' grew on me, but I never get excited over any new Ozzy releases, and I have n't in years, I am sure I will eventually buy it and even enjoy it for what it is, but for me the reality show, his wife's antics, may have soured me on his music some what, which I know is completely unfair.

I think people want to believe Ozzy will wake up and return to his classic roots...

He is trying to sound modern but right now modern is not sounding like an industrial or alternative band. Now its modern to sound retro. All the great bands like OVERKILL, MOTLEY CRUE, RATT, KEEL etc...went back to their roots and are selling well and fans are liking the new songs. OZZY should have gone back to the 80s with a modern production, but not putting old fashion industrial sounds in his music. Very bad album. Sad sad, sad.

krokus, has a good point alot of veteran acts such as Krokus, Scorpions, KISS, Journey, AC/DC (ok they never changed their sound) Uriah Heep, etc all have gone back to their roots and released some of their best and strongest albums in years.

Even his former band mates Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath with Dio had recorded the strongest album they had done in decades, I was not thinking that Ozzy would go that route, but maybe I was hoping he would since he hired Gus G, who I am unfamiliar with his work, heard alot of good things about.

manny wrote:

krokus, has a good point alot of veteran acts such as Krokus, Scorpions, KISS, Journey, AC/DC (ok they never changed their sound) Uriah Heep, etc all have gone back to their roots and released some of their best and strongest albums in years.

Even his former band mates Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath with Dio had recorded the strongest album they had done in decades, I was not thinking that Ozzy would go that route, but maybe I was hoping he would since he hired Gus G, who I am unfamiliar with his work, heard alot of good things about.

yeah, SCORPIONS, or URIAH HEEP also went back to their roots, even METALLICA on their last album sound more thrash like the old days, or SLAYER, or ANNIHILATOR new album. Why the f.uck OZZY wants to sound like the mid 90s. I just dont understand that.

manny wrote:

krokus, has a good point alot of veteran acts such as Krokus, Scorpions, KISS, Journey, AC/DC (ok they never changed their sound) Uriah Heep, etc all have gone back to their roots and released some of their best and strongest albums in years.

Even his former band mates Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath with Dio had recorded the strongest album they had done in decades, I was not thinking that Ozzy would go that route, but maybe I was hoping he would since he hired Gus G, who I am unfamiliar with his work, heard alot of good things about.

I agree. It is sad to be chasing fads when he still has the street cred to release a classic metal platter.

exact33 wrote:

manny wrote:

krokus, has a good point alot of veteran acts such as Krokus, Scorpions, KISS, Journey, AC/DC (ok they never changed their sound) Uriah Heep, etc all have gone back to their roots and released some of their best and strongest albums in years.

Even his former band mates Heaven and Hell/Black Sabbath with Dio had recorded the strongest album they had done in decades, I was not thinking that Ozzy would go that route, but maybe I was hoping he would since he hired Gus G, who I am unfamiliar with his work, heard alot of good things about.

I agree. It is sad to be chasing fads when he still has the street cred to release a classic metal platter.

Agreed as well. I think Ozzy still has it in him to put out a fine album but he somehow lost his way I guess,

- Let It Die shows potential during the first 30 seconds and then the (intentionally) distorted vocals roll on in. It's too bad because the chorus is sung very well and the lyrics are brilliant, regardless of who wrote them.
- Let Me Hear You Scream is a lame song. It's a song made to be played live.
- Soul Sucker is a decent song. The riff at 2:47 sounds like Sabotage era Black Sabbath.
- Life Won't Wait is a very good ballad; one of the best Ozzy has put out in recent years. I didn't like the song at first but it has grown on me. It's nowhere near the brilliance of Mama, I'm Coming Home but it is still very good. It reminds me of Steve Vai's song, Dyin' Day (which coincidentally was written for Ozzy while Vai was writing with him).
- Diggin' Me Down is okay at best. The acoustic guitar intro is very cool but Ozzy's heavily edited vocals are distracting. We all know he can't sing at that pitch anymore.
- Crucify is okay. It's not a memorable song but it's not a bad one either. At least it sounds like Ozzy could pull this one off live.
- Fearless is another lame song. The chorus is lame.
- Time is one of my favourite songs on the album. It reminds me of Blizzard era Ozzy, especially the drum and bass tracks.
- I Want It More is another filler song. Very forgettable.
- Latimer's Mercy is a good song. Very gloomy. Unfortunately the chorus lets the song down. If Ozzy can't pull this one off live, God help us.

Better than The Ultimate Sin, Ozzmosis and Black Rain... barely.

Here is a small exert from Gus G interview:

MusicRadar.com: Ostensibly, Ozzy parted ways with Zakk because he thought Zakk was spending too much time on Black Label Society and that his own records were even starting to sound like BLS a bit.
Gus: "Is that what he said?"
MusicRadar.com: That's what he's said in the press, yes. Did he express similar concerns to you, like, "Hey, I don't want my record to sound too much like Firewind?"
Gus: "No, no. I've never heard anything like that, at least while we were cutting the record. I should point out that when I went into the studio with Ozzy, all the tunes were written. I didn't have a chance to put any of my own songs on the album. Everything was done except for the guitar playing. So I went in, gave my input and did the best I could, given the situation. At the end of the day, though, Ozzy should sound like Ozzy. He's earned that right. It's not up to me or anybody else to try to change what it is he wants to do. I just wanted to give him what he wanted, and I think I did. The record's strong, man."

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I should point out that when I went into the studio with Ozzy, all the tunes were written. I didn't have a chance to put any of my own songs on the album. Everything was done except for the guitar playing. So I went in, gave my input and did the best I could, given the situation.

I hope that will silence all the Gus G. fan-boys that thought he was gonna revolutionize Ozzy's new album. He's nothing more than a hired hand.

As for the modern sound, I think they were just looking for radio play. While I thoroughly enjoy the "retro" sound of other bands, how much of them are getting radio play on modern rock stations? Sharon wants hits and radio airplay. Hits sell albums. She could give a rat's a$$ as to what the fans want.

Better then Ultimate Sin? I'm not holding my breath but we'll see.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

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I should point out that when I went into the studio with Ozzy, all the tunes were written. I didn't have a chance to put any of my own songs on the album. Everything was done except for the guitar playing. So I went in, gave my input and did the best I could, given the situation.

I hope that will silence all the Gus G. fan-boys that thought he was gonna revolutionize Ozzy's new album. He's nothing more than a hired hand.

As for the modern sound, I think they were just looking for radio play. While I thoroughly enjoy the "retro" sound of other bands, how much of them are getting radio play on modern rock stations? Sharon wants hits and radio airplay. Hits sell albums. She could give a rat's a$$ as to what the fans want.

Excellent points. My guess is that Ozzy's producer wrote the majority of the material and then it was basically either bring in a studio cat, or someone that would go on tour. I'm assuming Gus will tour.

I really have no idea what they play on the radio, I stopped caring over a decade ago. All I know, is when I do turn on a rock station it usually takes me about 6 seconds to turn it off.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

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I should point out that when I went into the studio with Ozzy, all the tunes were written. I didn't have a chance to put any of my own songs on the album. Everything was done except for the guitar playing. So I went in, gave my input and did the best I could, given the situation.

I hope that will silence all the Gus G. fan-boys that thought he was gonna revolutionize Ozzy's new album. He's nothing more than a hired hand.

As for the modern sound, I think they were just looking for radio play. While I thoroughly enjoy the "retro" sound of other bands, how much of them are getting radio play on modern rock stations? Sharon wants hits and radio airplay. Hits sell albums. She could give a rat's a$$ as to what the fans want.

I really cant disagree with any of that.

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I really have no idea what they play on the radio, I stopped caring over a decade ago. All I know, is when I do turn on a rock station it usually takes me about 6 seconds to turn it off.

I don't listen to "regular" radio anymore, but on occasion, I'll tune the sattelite radio to Octane (which is their version of modern rock radio) to see if I'm missing out on anything worthwhile. I'm not.

While I might hear a tune or 2 that I don't immediately dislike or maybe one that gets my foot tapping, I have yet to hear a song that made me want to check out more from the band. And they are at least playing bands more obscure than the typical Clear Channel approved play lists of regular radio.

I'm not as adventurous as TroubleMagnet I guess. I like what I like, typical or not.

I have n't listened to radio in years, when I do it is same old not Trouble Magnet approved play list or some lame ass band doing so called 'pop punk' 'emo' or some other genre created for peps who's balls haven't dropped yet.

manny wrote:

I have n't listened to radio in years, when I do it is same old not Trouble Magnet approved play list or some lame ass band doing so called 'pop punk' 'emo' or some other genre created for peps who's balls haven't dropped yet.

If the music was already written before Gus joined the band, i think Ozzy should of just started over with a clean slate. That's stupid to write an album without the guitarists' input... Ozzy did the same thing when he rehired Zakk for "Down to Earth".

This sounds like a project album through and through. Producer is selected, he does all the writing and arranging...then gets Ozzy to sing, hires a hot guitarist. Cashes paycheck, onto next project.

detuned wrote:

This sounds like a project album through and through. Producer is selected, he does all the writing and arranging...then gets Ozzy to sing, hires a hot guitarist. Cashes paycheck, onto next project.

Sad but true...

detuned wrote:

This sounds like a project album through and through. Producer is selected, he does all the writing and arranging...then gets Ozzy to sing, hires a hot guitarist. Cashes paycheck, onto next project.

Like it or not, this doesn't sound much different than any hot pop artist at the moment. Hire some writers and producers to put together the music, "singer" comes in, spits out a few lines into the auto-tune, then Pro-tools studio magic cranks out a radio friendly album.

Sad really.

Ozzy should've hired Jeff Kollman on lead guitar.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

detuned wrote:

This sounds like a project album through and through. Producer is selected, he does all the writing and arranging...then gets Ozzy to sing, hires a hot guitarist. Cashes paycheck, onto next project.

Like it or not, this doesn't sound much different than any hot pop artist at the moment. Hire some writers and producers to put together the music, "singer" comes in, spits out a few lines into the auto-tune, then Pro-tools studio magic cranks out a radio friendly album.

Sad really.

You're 100% correct and I was thinking about that last night.

Again this smacks of Sharon's doing, deciding to leave it in the hands of a producer to hopefully make more money. Plus, if you don't let your musicians in the band write anything...you don't have to pay them publishing royalties for it.

detuned wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

detuned wrote:

This sounds like a project album through and through. Producer is selected, he does all the writing and arranging...then gets Ozzy to sing, hires a hot guitarist. Cashes paycheck, onto next project.

Like it or not, this doesn't sound much different than any hot pop artist at the moment. Hire some writers and producers to put together the music, "singer" comes in, spits out a few lines into the auto-tune, then Pro-tools studio magic cranks out a radio friendly album.

Sad really.

You're 100% correct and I was thinking about that last night.

Again this smacks of Sharon's doing, deciding to leave it in the hands of a producer to hopefully make more money. Plus, if you don't let your musicians in the band write anything...you don't have to pay them publishing royalties for it.

That is true, as the lawsuit brought on from Kerslake and Daisley proved, also keep in mind that both Jake E. Lee and Lemmy who wrote songs with and for Ozzy where paid a lump sum and own none of the publishing to the songs they wrote for the albums they appeared and helped out on.

Also the reason both 'The Ultimate Sin' and 'Just Say Ozzy' have been deleted from his catalog for years, the co writer of 'Shot in the Dark' never signed his royalities away and has been in a legal battle with the Osbournes for years over this issue, which is strange since I believe the song has turned up on a few comp. albums.

Sharon saved Ozzy's career, and possibly his life.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Sharon saved Ozzy's career, and possibly his life.

True. 25 years ago. And since then, she's been doing everything in her power to destroy that career, chipping away a little more and more each day. Since she's now become the bigger celebrity, all that power has gone to her plastic surgery enhanced head.