Saint's Josh Kramer update...

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Hello ult,
awesome, i am delighted to know that ultimatum are playing.

i am in a cover band and we play classic rock and some new stuff, mostly popular songs that have not been played to death. songs like josie, (steely dan) jaimies crying (VH), beverly hills (wheezer), etc. the pay keeps the lights on, gas in my car and food on the table. we are just starting out so things will pick up in time. keep me and saint fans posted with updates, weblinks, pics whatever.

http://www.mrsaintfan.freewebspace.com
Saint's Official site http://www.saintsite.com http://saint777.net/index.html

..hjk

Hard to imagine that voice singing "Beverly Hills"...

Unless your really selling a lot of merch and doing some extensive touring, cover /tribute acts will do better for you monetarily.

candlemass wrote:

Unless your really selling a lot of merch and doing some extensive touring, cover /tribute acts will do better for you monetarily.

Which is pretty sad, don't ya think?

ultmetal wrote:

candlemass wrote:

Unless your really selling a lot of merch and doing some extensive touring, cover /tribute acts will do better for you monetarily.

Which is pretty sad, don't ya think?

No, why?

It's kind of a shame when an artist who makes original music of his own makes more money and gets more attention for playing someone else's music.

Nothing against Cover/Tribute acts...some people just enjoy playing and don't get into writing, etc. They're usually the one's out in the clubs making money playing covers.

But for those of us who write our own songs, most of our time is spent holed up in a studio/bedroom somewhere recording...

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

It's kind of a shame when an artist who makes original music of his own makes more money and gets more attention for playing someone else's music.

Nothing against Cover/Tribute acts...some people just enjoy playing and don't get into writing, etc. They're usually the one's out in the clubs making money playing covers.

But for those of us who write our own songs, most of our time is spent holed up in a studio/bedroom somewhere recording...

Yep, i wrote 30 originals in 2008, i have them all recorded just so i can keep the ideas. There are lyrics and vocals to most of the tracks. When i played gigs in my teen years it seemed people rather hear the covers then your originals.

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When i played gigs in my teen years it seemed people rather hear the covers then your originals.

This makes sense, though. When going to the bar/gig to hear music, it's more fun and less mental to hear something familiar. You already know the words and the beat and you can just get lost in the song. I like to see a band AFTER I've become familiar with their new material. I like that comfort zone.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

It's kind of a shame when an artist who makes original music of his own makes more money and gets more attention for playing someone else's music.

Nothing against Cover/Tribute acts...some people just enjoy playing and don't get into writing, etc. They're usually the one's out in the clubs making money playing covers.

But for those of us who write our own songs, most of our time is spent holed up in a studio/bedroom somewhere recording...

It is what it is. Unless your songs catch on to the masses, your not going to get the $. We get paid to perform, we have to learn all these songs and perform them well to go over as a tribute act. Even the generic cover bands have much work to do, most people at the clubs are not interested in originals.

scottmitchell74 wrote:

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When i played gigs in my teen years it seemed people rather hear the covers then your originals.

This makes sense, though. When going to the bar/gig to hear music, it's more fun and less mental to hear something familiar. You already know the words and the beat and you can just get lost in the song. I like to see a band AFTER I've become familiar with their new material. I like that comfort zone.

I feel the same way, I was never a fan of local bands originals as i was unfamiliar with them. Playing originals is just much more fun.

I love being in a Doors tribute band, much more fun for me to do this than playing shotty originals. Now if I was in a band where I enjoyed what was being created, sure, I've had some offers to join original projects, but none of them appealed to me.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

It's kind of a shame when an artist who makes original music of his own makes more money and gets more attention for playing someone else's music.

Nothing against Cover/Tribute acts...some people just enjoy playing and don't get into writing, etc. They're usually the one's out in the clubs making money playing covers.

But for those of us who write our own songs, most of our time is spent holed up in a studio/bedroom somewhere recording...

Exactly.

candlemass wrote:

...most people at the clubs are not interested in originals.

Exactly my point. It's a shame people would rather hear Sweet Home Alabama for the nine millionth time, as performed by some cheesy cover band, rather than listen to an artist play something original.

Again, this depends on your originals, and the type of club your playing at.

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

It's kind of a shame when an artist who makes original music of his own makes more money and gets more attention for playing someone else's music.

Nothing against Cover/Tribute acts...some people just enjoy playing and don't get into writing, etc. They're usually the one's out in the clubs making money playing covers.

But for those of us who write our own songs, most of our time is spent holed up in a studio/bedroom somewhere recording...

Exactly.

candlemass wrote:

...most people at the clubs are not interested in originals.

Exactly my point. It's a shame people would rather hear Sweet Home Alabama for the nine millionth time, as performed by some cheesy cover band, rather than listen to an artist play something original.

Totally agree, 100%. Its not that I mind cover bands, but to be honest, most of the time they slaughter the stuff they are playing.


Arttie

candlemass wrote:

I love being in a Doors tribute band, much more fun for me to do this than playing shotty originals. Now if I was in a band where I enjoyed what was being created, sure, I've had some offers to join original projects, but none of them appealed to me.

Do you play the hedge-trimmer by chance?

ultmetal wrote:

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Hello ult,
awesome, i am delighted to know that ultimatum are playing.

i am in a cover band and we play classic rock and some new stuff, mostly popular songs that have not been played to death. songs like josie, (steely dan) jaimies crying (VH), beverly hills (wheezer), etc. the pay keeps the lights on, gas in my car and food on the table. we are just starting out so things will pick up in time. keep me and saint fans posted with updates, weblinks, pics whatever.

http://www.mrsaintfan.freewebspace.com
Saint's Official site http://www.saintsite.com http://saint777.net/index.html

..hjk

That loud noise you hear is the sound of all the Saint fans collectively passing out.

At least he's still playing music. Most people quit all together.

That's true. But Weezer?

T-Roy wrote:

candlemass wrote:

I love being in a Doors tribute band, much more fun for me to do this than playing shotty originals. Now if I was in a band where I enjoyed what was being created, sure, I've had some offers to join original projects, but none of them appealed to me.

Do you play the hedge-trimmer by chance?

Only at outdoor shows!