Subject: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:48 pm
Mine...
John Bonham Terry Bozzio Tommy Aldridge Billy Cobham
What say you?
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brokentulsa Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:40 pm
John Bonham Neil Peart Herman Rarebell Nigel Glockler
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:54 pm
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
Gilbert Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:52 am
Troublezone wrote:
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
My list too .
Thrasher73 Much Cooler than the other 72
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:14 am
Robert Sweet Gene Hoglan Jason Bittner Dave Lombardo
Gilbert Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:16 am
I also like Chris Nail from Exhorder. Excellent drumming skills.
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Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:43 am
Troublezone wrote:
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
Three of your rock drummers are also metal drummers.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:29 pm
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
Three of your rock drummers are also metal drummers.
I consider them hard rock drummers. Not the same IMO.
Neil Peart and Rush were definitely not Metal!
Sword Of The Heretic Metal master
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:24 pm
Neil Peart Dave Lombardo Morgan Rose Dan Presland (drummer for Ne Obliviscaris)
Glower Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:56 pm
Marky Ramone ! Carl Canedy ! Phil Rudd. Bill Ward.
Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:43 am
Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
Three of your rock drummers are also metal drummers.
I consider them hard rock drummers. Not the same IMO.
Neil Peart and Rush were definitely not Metal!
Sure they were. Among other things.
Wrecked Neck Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:00 am
Ian Paice Neil Peart Dave Lombardo Mitch Mitchell Mike Portnoy John Bonham Bill Ward Sami Kuoppamaki Danny Carey Mikkey Dee
Wrecked Neck Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:03 am
Oh, guess I should have paid attention to the title. Only four? Screw it, my mountain has room for ten lol
nevermore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:24 pm
Neil Peart Bill Ward Phil Taylor Dave Lombardo
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:24 pm
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Metal: Dave Lombardo Gene Hoglan Igor Cavalera Vinnie Paul
Rock: Alex Van Halen Bill Ward Neil Peart Tommy Aldridge
Three of your rock drummers are also metal drummers.
I consider them hard rock drummers. Not the same IMO.
Neil Peart and Rush were definitely not Metal!
Sure they were. Among other things.
Stop trolling me and move along. You are obviously being a smartass. Can they play metal? Sure. Is that what they are known for? No.
Alex Van Halen and Neil Peart would have told you to your face that they are not Metal. Tommy Aldridge is basically a session guy that started with Black Oak Arkansas (not Metal). I guess you could consider Bill Ward Metal, but Tony Iommi said they were not!
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:14 pm
Troublezone wrote:
Tommy Aldridge is basically a session guy that started with Black Oak Arkansas (not Metal).
Not trolling you, but Tommy both recorded and toured with more bands than he just did a session for in the studio. Black Oak, Travers, Gary Moore, Ozzy, Whitesnake, Nugent, Lizzy, and John Sykes.
My first concert, California Jam, I watched Tommy's solo and went home and learned what I saw. Which was basically a quintessential 80'\s metal drum solo done in 1974.
Stuff that Peart played is from a technique & theory perspective what tone tons of metal drummers emulate. Sure Rush didn't have what you could call that "metal" tone in the guitar department and in most of their latter arrangements any semblance the stuff from the mid/late 70's. It is debatable to say they were "metal" or not, especially considering what was considered metal in that period.
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mc666 Master Sailboat
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:22 pm
Dave Lombardo Charlie Benente Pete Sandoval Mick Harris
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Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:32 pm
James B. wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Tommy Aldridge is basically a session guy that started with Black Oak Arkansas (not Metal).
Not trolling you, but Tommy both recorded and toured with more bands than he just did a session for in the studio. Black Oak, Travers, Gary Moore, Ozzy, Whitesnake, Nugent, Lizzy, and John Sykes.
My first concert, California Jam, I watched Tommy's solo and went home and learned what I saw. Which was basically a quintessential 80'\s metal drum solo done in 1974.
Stuff that Peart played is from a technique & theory perspective what tone tons of metal drummers emulate. Sure Rush didn't have what you could call that "metal" tone in the guitar department and in most of their latter arrangements any semblance the stuff from the mid/late 70's. It is debatable to say they were "metal" or not, especially considering what was considered metal in that period.
What I meant by “session” is that he never seemed to stay in a band for more than a few years or albums. Maybe “hired gun” works better.
Flashy technique also doesn’t mean Metal. Jazz drummers can do things that would make your head spin and jaw drop, but it’s not Metal. Peart is massively influential to prog-Metal players, but that doesn’t mean he is Metal. He probably took more from jazz cats than John Bonham.
akeldama Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:51 pm
Brian Downey Bill Ward Billy Cobham Lance Garvin
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:40 am
Troublezone wrote:
What I meant by “session” is that he never seemed to stay in a band for more than a few years or albums. Maybe “hired gun” works better.
That is what I figured you meant
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:52 am
Troublezone wrote:
Flashy technique also doesn’t mean Metal. Jazz drummers can do things that would make your head spin and jaw drop, but it’s not Metal. Peart is massively influential to prog-Metal players, but that doesn’t mean he is Metal. He probably took more from jazz cats than John Bonham.
Two of my Mt. Rushmore drummers are jazz players, they also incorporate other styles of music utilizing aspects of jazz playing.
I could incorporate 90% of the drumming from "La Villa Strangiato" into a Priest or Maiden style tune and would it be "metal" drumming of "rock" drumming?
We are talking about "drumming" and not specifically songs or bands.
Anyways, people have their opinions about stuff, especially what something is it what it isn't.
BTW, ever seen Aldridge's BOA drum solo from 74'?
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Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 am
James B. wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Flashy technique also doesn’t mean Metal. Jazz drummers can do things that would make your head spin and jaw drop, but it’s not Metal. Peart is massively influential to prog-Metal players, but that doesn’t mean he is Metal. He probably took more from jazz cats than John Bonham.
Two of my Mt. Rushmore drummers are jazz players, they also incorporate other styles of music utilizing aspects of jazz playing.
I could incorporate 90% of the drumming from "La Villa Strangiato" into a Priest or Maiden style tune and would it be "metal" drumming of "rock" drumming?
We are talking about "drumming" and not specifically songs or bands.
Anyways, people have their opinions about stuff, especially what something is it what it isn't.
BTW, ever seen Aldridge's BOA drum solo from 74'?
I tend to categorize things. Just look past it… you still get my list of players.
Yes. I believe I have seen his BOA solos on YouTube. He’s an amazing drummer! His open hand “bongo” segment is fun to watch.
Lurideath Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:41 pm
Bill Ward Cozy Powell Dave Lombardo Bempa Larsson
Glower Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:17 pm
Honorable mention : Randy Castillo. That Lita Ford album was sooooo solid.
Big Rich Metal master
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Subject: Re: Your Mt. Rushmore of drummers! Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:38 pm
Alex Van Halen Igor Cavalera Terry Williams Terry Bozzio