When is a release or a band "old"? I personally find it to be very fluid when I speak. But after careful thinking, trying to pinpoint a specific point of time, I've come to the conclusion it's 1994. If it's released before that, it's old. If it's after, it's not old. It's new. Or at least sort of new.
So 25 years is the cutoff for me personally. But I'm born 1980 so that also kind of coincides with the period of time I was (very slowly) becoming an adult. And probably back in the day I thought anything pre-1990 was "old".
What do you think qualifies as "old" and "new"?
Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:58 pm
I'm going to be 50 next year. EVERYTHING is "old" to me.
Now get off my damn lawn.
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Rami Airola Metal student
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:03 pm
Don't really know when they're old, but I tend to think any post 2000 album or a band is new. Just last week I was talking to someone about a some new album and realized that damn album was 16 years old already.
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:26 pm
As soon as a band releases a new album, the one(s) before that are old. If they change members, the previous line up is the old one, and it a bands set list doesn't include music from the most recent release....they are only playing old songs.
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Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:04 pm
James B. wrote:
As soon as a band releases a new album, the one(s) before that are old. If they change members, the previous line up is the old one, and it a bands set list doesn't include music from the most recent release....they are only playing old songs.
So, like... Final Frontier is an old Iron Maiden album?
Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:06 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
I'm going to be 50 next year. EVERYTHING is "old" to me.
Now get off my damn lawn.
That doesn't even make sense. If you're getting old, wouldn't everything released in the last few years NOT feel old to you? Like the top of the pop music chart this week.
Boris2008 Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:39 pm
It's fluid!
When I got into rock in 1980, all albums from the early 70's might as well have been from the stone age. I'd only been around 9 years myself so.....
Now I put on albums that I think off as fairly recent and realise that they are from 17 years ago!!
And that Brody is now a forty year old mum of three!
Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:40 pm
Lari wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
I'm going to be 50 next year. EVERYTHING is "old" to me.
Now get off my damn lawn.
That doesn't even make sense. If you're getting old, wouldn't everything released in the last few years NOT feel old to you? Like the top of the pop music chart this week.
I say "everything is old to me" in the sense that by this point, even "new" stuff feels like it's been done before to me.
I am mostly, blissfully unaware of what's at the top of the pop charts. I often joke that I'm stuck in a time bubble of my own choosing, which extends from roughly 1970 (the year of my birth) to around 1994-95 (when I realized that mainstream pop culture was rapidly moving on without me, so I stopped paying attention to it).
Therefore I am surrounded by "old" stuff, which is fine with me. Pretty much everything that interests me -- not just metal music, but also comics, movies, TV shows, books, and pornography (heh heh) -- was better (IMO) in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
In the immortal words of Grampa Simpson: I used to be "with it," then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm "with" isn't "it," and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me.
...see, I should've just answered "I'm old" and left it at that. It would've been funnier.
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Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:30 pm
Anything within the 2000’s leans on the new side for me. Even some of the late 90’s stuff.
Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:10 pm
If it's from 20 years ago it's old but I completely get where FF is coming from.
007 Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:12 pm
I'd go with the 20 years or older cut off Lin for something to be "old".
Required Fields Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:47 am
I've heard of younger people describe songs that are only two years old as "old".
Anyways, I have heard Blink 182 on "classic rock" radio stations, and have heard of younger people call Linkin Park "dad rock", so I guess those are signs I'm getting old.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:25 pm
Old is partly just a state of mind, and a perception of younger people. Everyone ages different. I’ve seen people in their late 20s that look 40, and I’ve seen some in their 40s that look 28...
The way the young people of today think, it’s probably a matter of time before we’re in a Logan’s Run situation. Everyone “checks out” at age 30, because it’s too old.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:35 pm
Look at Ralph Macchio. The guy is almost 60 and he looks about 45.
Glower Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:59 am
New - when musicians are in their 20’s . Real time.
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:47 am
I am old
Glower Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:54 am
Manny ! That’d be a great - Crue come back song ! Think of it ! Now should it be a ballad or a power rock type thing - that’s the question !
Thrasher73 Much Cooler than the other 72
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:37 am
You know what’s old? The flat earth thread! Haha!
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:01 am
Thrasher73 wrote:
You know what’s old? The flat earth thread! Haha!
Very true!
John Madden Metal graduate
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:04 pm
OK Boomer
Required Fields Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:22 pm
Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:37 pm
Glower wrote:
New - when musicians are in their 20’s . Real time.
This is an interesting take. New music can also be already old the day it's released. An old band releasing a new album can be considered old music.
7thSecond Metal master
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Subject: Re: What is "old"? Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:31 pm
I get really sad when I think of what people consider old now. I'm 48 and I still think of Hysteria, Empire, Ultimate Sin etc. as recent. They're not though and I hate how fast life is going by.