Rage Against The Machine

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Anyone have any input for this band ?
Bought a CD - just to crank in my car - Sleep Now in the Fire.
Interesting style.

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They suck? That's all the input I can come up with at the moment lol

King Of Kaiju Number of posts : 30892 Age : 64

I actually like some Rage but I do find that the rap/metal style starts to grate on my nerves after a while.

But this particular song is still a workout favorite:

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Wrecked Neck wrote:: They suck? That's all the input I can come up with at the moment lol

Agreed!

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BTW, I'm moving this because The Complete Works forum is supposed to be for full band discographies.

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I thought the first two albums were good. But after those I got bored with them pretty quick.

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I blame them for nu-metal.

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Lari wrote:: I blame them for nu-metal.

Why?

I think you can blame them for stuff like Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach but how are they responsible for nu metal?

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Regardless, call it what you want, but it all sounds like ass. lol!

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tohostudios wrote:

Lari wrote:: I blame them for nu-metal.

Why?

I think you can blame them for stuff like Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach but how are they responsible for nu metal?

I'd say he blames them for nu-metal because most rap-rock bands in the late 1990s onward sounded like KoRn (whom I'll mention because they seem to be the "poster band" for nu-metal) musically with rapped vocals.

Of course, RATM and other rap-rock bands that released their full length debuts in the early to mid 1990s didn't sound like KoRn musically at all. Even though KoRn is not rap-rock (they do have about an EP or so worth of songs with some rapped vocals, but no predominantly rap-rock albums), most bands that rapped over heavy guitar riffs did musically sound like KoRn with rapped vocals, hence the association between rap-rock and nu-metal.

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Funny you mention Korn because I almost said that's who I would blame for nu-metal. I just blame Rage for the entire rap-metal phenomenon and Korn for nu-metal but I can sort of see/hear the connection between RATM to Korn to nu-metal.

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Regardless, I agree with nevermore:

Quote :: I thought the first two albums were good. But after those I got bored with them pretty quick.

RATM albums get real samey real fast and I also get tired of Zack's constant political tirades in every song.

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Bulls on Parade and Guerrilla Radio are cool songs, thats about the extent of my experience with them.

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Never liked'em, when it comes to political 90s aggro rock I'll take Warrior Soul any day.

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I have the first three albums and I enjoy them. Evil Empire is probably my favorite. When I think Nu-Metal, it's more the Korn/Limp Bizcuit/Distrubed etc ... That whole Family Values tours that they used to do with Ice Cube. All that said, Rage is the only band I ever really go back to. The band as a whole were really excellent. Tom Morello's guitar playing, in my mind, sort of kept them separate from the rest of the nu-metal bands.

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Aaron_D wrote:: I have the first three albums and I enjoy them. Evil Empire is probably my favorite. When I think Nu-Metal, it's more the Korn/Limp Bizcuit/Distrubed etc ... That whole Family Values tours that they used to do with Ice Cube. All that said, Rage is the only band I ever really go back to. The band as a whole were really excellent. Tom Morello's guitar playing, in my mind, sort of kept them separate from the rest of the nu-metal bands.

I agree with that last sentence. I think that's what keeps me coming back to RATM as well.

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I have the first 2 albums, but I can't remember the last time I played them I just don't have an interest in that type of music anymore. If it were still 2002 and I had less choices, I would probably still play them regularly. But now, with more choices and less interest to revisit that period, they just collect dust.

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Lari wrote:: I blame them for nu-metal.

I blame Faith No More and the Anthrax/Public Enemy collaboration for nu-metal.

Subject: Re: Rage Against The Machine Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:56 am

I like a song here and there from them. They have a cool funk to their sound. Nothing I listen to on a regular basis though.

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Wow - glad this wasn't a POLL -
who's better - them or Suicidal Tendencies ?
Rage - would of been run out of town ! LOL

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I've never been a fan much of the whole rap-rock genre or of Zack's political rants, but I do like a handful of songs by them. If I had their entire catalog laid out in front of me, I could probably cherry-pick a decent comp of Rage tunes.

Tom Morrello's multiple appearances on the old "That Metal Show" really helped change my opinion of him and by association, the band.

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nevermore wrote:: I blame Faith No More and the Anthrax/Public Enemy collaboration for nu-metal.

Scott Ian blames "I'm The Man" and the Anthrax/Public Enemy collab for it too. I read an interview somewhere years ago where he said "If I could have known what it was going to inspire, we never would have done it." Laughing very hard

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Required Fields wrote:

tohostudios wrote:

Lari wrote:: I blame them for nu-metal.

Why?

I think you can blame them for stuff like Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach but how are they responsible for nu metal?

I'd say he blames them for nu-metal because most rap-rock bands in the late 1990s onward sounded like KoRn (whom I'll mention because they seem to be the "poster band" for nu-metal) musically with rapped vocals.

Of course, RATM and other rap-rock bands that released their full length debuts in the early to mid 1990s didn't sound like KoRn musically at all. Even though KoRn is not rap-rock (they do have about an EP or so worth of songs with some rapped vocals, but no predominantly rap-rock albums), most bands that rapped over heavy guitar riffs did musically sound like KoRn with rapped vocals, hence the association between rap-rock and nu-metal.

This is an entirely inaccurate description of that style of music. Korn sounds like Korn. The only other band that remotely sounded like them was a band called Juice, which is a band formed after SexArt broke up, a band that featured Jonathan Davis in its ranks. Nothing ever became of Juice, though.

Beyond that, I can't name one band that really played a style of music similar to Korn. Certainly no rap-rock bands, then or now, and I love that style of music.

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Fat Freddy wrote:

nevermore wrote:: I blame Faith No More and the Anthrax/Public Enemy collaboration for nu-metal.

Scott Ian blames "I'm The Man" and the Anthrax/Public Enemy collab for it too. I read an interview somewhere years ago where he said "If I could have known what it was going to inspire, we never would have done it." Laughing very hard

Run DMC were the first.

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Arguably, "Walk This Way" probably had more influence here than any of the other rap/rock collabs.