Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:46 pm
Yeah, it was available on the final tour. I can't imagine they won't release a commercial version. That'd be retarded.
DakotaRogers Metal master
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:49 pm
"The End" is going to be a hard release for you to come by, as it's only available at Black Sabbath shows during their 2016 tour and by all accounts, supplies are limited and go very fast. In any regards, if you're lucky enough to get to the merchandise booth on time, $30 will snag you this CD, which contains four unreleased tracks from the "13" sessions and four live cuts. The live cuts are nothing to get super excited about - the recording quality is about a step up from the realms of being a bootleg, but the real treat is the four studio cuts.
With an average running length of about 7 minutes each, you'll have about a half an hour of new(ish) Sabbath stuff to listen to. Ultimately, there's not much variation from what you've already heard on "13" in so far as song, sound, writing and quality is concerned. "Season of the Dead" kicks things off fairly nicely, and one wonders if they might have also considered this as a final track on "13" itself due to the fade out of falling rain (presumably leading in to the falling rain of the start to the track "Black Sabbath", a trick they did with the end of "Dear Father" on "13"). "Cry All Night" is a definite winner and these two tracks are easily the standouts of the EP. That said, "Take Me Home" and "Isolated Man" are really nothing to get excited about and it's easy to see why they were left off of the final track list.
I have to wonder why Sabbath didn't just release everything they had recorded for "13" in the first place. If you were to buy all of the different versions that "13" was available on (as I did), you had an additional four bonus tracks onto the eight that "13" offered, and adding these four songs on would have brought that to a grand total of twelve songs for the release. Myself, I'd have been much happier to see "13" released with all twelve songs and not had them split up over 4 different releases, but...record companies anymore, what can you do?
All in all, "The End" is sort of a mixed bag for me. It's not 'bad', but the only two real takeaway winners I have are "Season of the Dead" and "Cry All Night", and the rest of it is just sort of there. The $30 price tag is a pretty hefty amount to invest in it, but if you simply must have everything with the name Black Sabbath on it (like I do), you won't miss the money that much and again, the first two tracks are without a doubt worth having in your collection.
I would finish up by saying that it's for Black Sabbath diehards only (which is pretty much true), but if you're a Black Sabbath fan at all, that probably describes you anyway, right? Good luck on finding a copy, but if you're one of the chosen few at the merchandise stand early enough, you shouldn't have many regrets.
-rbright1674 (Metal Archives)
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:25 am
That "reviewer" is bad at the maths.
Anyway, there are 16 total songs from the 13 sessions. That have been released, anyway. They wouldn't fit on a single CD. All are good tunes, though. I don't know about the four songs on The End, but I know the deluxe edition tracks on 13 just didn't fit with the eight on the main album, which is obviously why they weren't on the main album.
Either way, The End will get a mass release, I'm sure. Or 13 will be re-released with all these songs tagged on.
Troublezone Road Warrior
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:23 am
I won't bother with it, unless it gets a proper affordable release.
mc666 Master Sailboat
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:43 am
I'll just download the studio cuts if I ever want to hear more of the bore that was 13.
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metalinmyveins Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:28 am
mc666 wrote:
I'll just download the studio cuts if I ever want to hear more of the bore that was 13.
You absolutely nailed it Monty! I'm surprised this isn't the prevailing thought regarding this album on here. I reacquainted myself with the "13" thread a few months back and for the most part the peeps on here seem to like this album. I find it incredibly boring as well. I wouldn't say the songs are terrible, but nothing really stands out!
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:09 am
I've heard this. The studio tracks are very good and was nice to see the old guys had more gas in the tank during the recording of 13 and weren't struggling to fill the original record. If you take these 4 bonus tracks and put them with the bonus disc 2 tracks from 13, you have a nice double album.
The live tracks are ok, but didn't do much for me and don't seem essential.
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Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:26 am
Cash Grabbath cover band at its finest. Not even the original drummer. Some drummer from f*cking White Zombie.
Boris2008 Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:47 am
Death Sentinel wrote:
Cash Grabbath cover band at its finest. Not even the original drummer. Some drummer from f*cking White Zombie.
Still better than being a Painkiller cover act
DakotaRogers Metal master
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:55 am
No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:58 am
Boris2008 wrote:
Death Sentinel wrote:
Cash Grabbath cover band at its finest. Not even the original drummer. Some drummer from f*cking White Zombie.
Still better than being a Painkiller cover act
Cash Grabbath is just another cover band that's asking for more dope money from all of you.
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:45 am
Death Sentinel wrote:
Boris2008 wrote:
Death Sentinel wrote:
Cash Grabbath cover band at its finest. Not even the original drummer. Some drummer from f*cking White Zombie.
Still better than being a Painkiller cover act
Cash Grabbath is just another cover band that's asking for more dope money from all of you.
Yup.
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:19 am
_________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
Boris2008 Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:50 am
Hmm, lots of copies for sale, ships from the Russian Federation? This is going to be a bootski!
Still, at that price I'm pretty tempted.
Most assuredly, but if you're looking for a reasonable-priced copy, you could do worse.
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Lurideath Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:00 pm
This album is ok. The studio tracks are boring or just maybe I am not feeling them. The live songs are lame and the drumming is terrible.
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:10 pm
Hmm, lots of copies for sale, ships from the Russian Federation? This is going to be a bootski!
Still, at that price I'm pretty tempted.
And just like that *snap*, they're sold out.
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Boris2008 Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:33 pm
corplhicks Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:54 pm
mc666 wrote:
I'll just download the studio cuts if I ever want to hear more of the bore that was 13.
metalinmyveins wrote:
mc666 wrote:
I'll just download the studio cuts if I ever want to hear more of the bore that was 13.
You absolutely nailed it Monty! I'm surprised this isn't the prevailing thought regarding this album on here. I reacquainted myself with the "13" thread a few months back and for the most part the peeps on here seem to like this album. I find it incredibly boring as well. I wouldn't say the songs are terrible, but nothing really stands out!
I'd encourage you guys to take a listen to the studio cuts here before passing judgment. Rubin had no involvement and the sound is way heavier and more metallic than anything on 13.
Although I'm still having a hard time understanding why Sabbath fans didn't at least enjoy 13.
akeldama Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Black Sabbath THE END TOUR CD Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:44 pm
I would have preferred 'The End' to have had the 4 bonus studio songs from '13' added to the four studio cuts and had another Sabbath album but two of the four studio songs I really liked and the other two were good enough.
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