New Live Album - The Turn

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

Since their other project went nowhere (The Gracious Few anyone?) Live has apparently recruited a new singer after their acrimonious split with original vocalist Ed Kowalczyk and put out a new album The Turn.

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Listen to some samples on Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Turn-Live/dp/B00NMJQGOK/ref=cm_cr_pr_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8

Sounds like Live I guess. Not really my thing, but I figure some folks here might care.

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Metal is Forever Number of posts : 7059 Age : 44

Throwing Copper was on of my favorite 90's albums but that was as far as I got with them. A new lead singer? meh.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

corplhicks wrote:: Throwing Copper was on of my favorite 90's albums but that was as far as I got with them. A new lead singer? meh.

One of mine too..... I saw them right before Throwing Copper hit big time at a cool venue called The Boathouse. Awesome show - and was really cool to see them just after that album was released. Those samples aren't doing much for me

Metal is Forever Number of posts : 7641 Age : 56

Is this in the right forum? scratch

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49

The Gracious Few is a great album. Shame it wasn't a big deal.

Anyway, I pledged for this new Live album, been playing it for a while now, and I think it's excellent. The new singer is a bit different from Ed, but the music is obviously a big part of their sound, so it sounds like Live. A bit darker this time out, though.

I like it better than Ed's solo albums, although no song on it is as catchy as "Grace." That one has such a great hook. That's not to say The Turn isn't full of catchy songs; every song has a nice hook, but they're more subtle, less anthemic.

Either way, excellent album. The samples on Amazon don't do it justice.

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1598 Age : 41

I've heard bits and pieces about the split with Ed. What actually went down, or is the story "under wraps" save for some fan speculation?

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

From what I understand, Ed got a case of LSD (Lead Singer Disease) and starting making deals and decisions without consulting the other members, claiming that it was "his" band. They've really all been together since grade school, so as far as a "leader" goes, who's to say?

Is there more to it? Probably, but that's the gist of it.

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Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1598 Age : 41

That fits with what I heard about it. Unless you're Pete Townshend or the one guy who writes everything (for the inverse, read Mike Doughty's book - I was seeing red by the end), that whole, "I am the band" thing is crap.

Hell, even in Townshend's case, he'd freely admit that while he wrote the songs, everyone else in the band put their unique stamp on it.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49

MetalGuy71 wrote:: From what I understand, Ed got a case of LSD (Lead Singer Disease) and starting making deals and decisions without consulting the other members, claiming that it was "his" band. They've really all been together since grade school, so as far as a "leader" goes, who's to say?

Is there more to it? Probably, but that's the gist of it.

Very similar to what Tate did, actually. Ed tried to do his own backdoor deals, demanded more money per show, and also somehow tricked the band into signing over rights to some company they ran. Something like that. And like Tate, he thought he was more important than the rest of the band. And of course is milking the hell out of Live's back catalog while touring, doing 20th Anniversary shows for Throwing Copper and such.

Either way, seemed like some pretty shitty things to do to people he'd been friends with since they were kids.

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1598 Age : 41

Eyesore wrote:: Very similar to what Tate did, actually. Ed tried to do his own backdoor deals, demanded more money per show, and also somehow tricked the band into signing over rights to some company they ran. Something like that. And like Tate, he thought he was more important than the rest of the band. And of course is milking the hell out of Live's back catalog while touring, doing 20th Anniversary shows for Throwing Copper and such.

Either way, seemed like some pretty shitty things to do to people he'd been friends with since they were kids.

Yeah, I'll second that one. At least one could argue that Tate viewed the others as bandmates first and primarily. They weren't exactly childhood chums.

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49

Runicen wrote:

Eyesore wrote:: Very similar to what Tate did, actually. Ed tried to do his own backdoor deals, demanded more money per show, and also somehow tricked the band into signing over rights to some company they ran. Something like that. And like Tate, he thought he was more important than the rest of the band. And of course is milking the hell out of Live's back catalog while touring, doing 20th Anniversary shows for Throwing Copper and such.

Either way, seemed like some pretty shitty things to do to people he'd been friends with since they were kids.

Yeah, I'll second that one. At least one could argue that Tate viewed the others as bandmates first and primarily. They weren't exactly childhood chums.

Differences, sure, but still dick moves from both of them.