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Jaybird
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PostSubject: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 5:27 pm

Man, this song could have been "Balls to the Wall" part 2.

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 6:35 pm

Well I´d not call it exactly a "rip off" , but the pace and some of the riffs are somewhat similar ... I have never heard much of their 90´s material but this album in particular sounds too AC/DC influenced for my tastes ... I mean I prefer their more "heavy metal oriented" songs like Restless and Wild , Breaker and such , sometimes they sound a little more hard rockish, sometimes they sound more "metal". de4pending on how you differentiate hard rock and Metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 6:50 pm

The chord progressions sure sound the same to me.  The more I listen to it I think the OP is spot on; they took Balls To The Wall, changed the words and made the vocals on the verse a little more aggressive but damn, that sounds almost EXACTLY like Balls.

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 6:57 pm

tohostudios wrote:
but damn, that sounds almost EXACTLY like Balls.

They should use that quote in the ads!  Laughing very hard 
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 7:51 pm

Nah, not the same song... even though it is same key, same basic chords, but played differently... lots of band do the exact same thing
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 8:05 pm

thejokeriv wrote:
Nah, not the same song... even though it is same key, same basic chords, but played differently... lots of band do the exact same thing

First thing I thought was "AC/DC has been doing this for decades".

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2014 8:42 pm

No only that, but I think chorus from their song "New World Coming" rips a bit from the guitars that start at :15 of "I Don't Want To Be Like You!"

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeTue Jul 15, 2014 9:08 pm

Nothing wrong with using old ideas for new stuff. I don't find it ripping themselves off.
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Shawn Of Fire
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeTue Jul 15, 2014 9:16 pm

Lurideath wrote:
Nothing wrong with using old ideas for new stuff. I don't find it ripping themselves off.

It's not ripping yourself off...it's called having a signature sound.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 1:45 am

It happens a lot, I've learned to accept (haha) it. When a band takes from another band is a different issue though, like Megadeth's Kingmaker.

Check out the verse in this tune and tell me what you hear:



Awesome album but I can't deny that bugs me.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 2:14 am

Speaking of Metal Church:



Great intro guys! Where'd you get it? Oh right:

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 2:50 am

^^good example, and funnily that original intro borrowed heavily from The Planets (my favorite classical suite), specifically Mars. Thing about Fake Healer is it's one of my favorite MC tracks--AFTER the intro haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 5:50 am

Sounds cool nevertheless.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 10:24 am

Who better to rip off than yourself?
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 16, 2014 11:58 am

corplhicks wrote:
^^good example, and funnily that original intro borrowed heavily from The Planets (my favorite classical suite), specifically Mars. Thing about Fake Healer is it's one of my favorite MC tracks--AFTER the intro haha.

Oh yeah, it's a great song.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2020 8:24 am



Here’s a band from Greece. 4 song EP.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am

corplhicks wrote:
It happens a lot, I've learned to accept (haha) it. When a band takes from another band is a different issue though, like Megadeth's Kingmaker.

Check out the verse in this tune and tell me what you hear:



Awesome album but I can't deny that bugs me.

Man, i really need to buy this album. Can't seem to find it anywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2020 11:49 am

Glower wrote:


Here’s a band from Greece. 4 song EP.

Now that's what I'm talking about!  I just downloaded it from bandcamp. Thanks Glower!
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2020 12:44 pm

Accept are great. They stay true. Why stray from being great? A different variation of great is still great, even if it's close to the original great. I personally never need to hear Balls to the Wall ever again in my life. So it's nice they made a new tune that takes the same spirit but it not quite the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2020 11:57 pm

Gilbert wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
It happens a lot, I've learned to accept (haha) it. When a band takes from another band is a different issue though, like Megadeth's Kingmaker.

Check out the verse in this tune and tell me what you hear:



Awesome album but I can't deny that bugs me.

Man, i really need to buy this album. Can't seem to find it anywhere.

I had to find a youtube video of the full album and convert it into an MP3. I've done it with many long OOP albums that you can't find digital or hard copies of (or ones where you can't find the digital copy but you can get the hard copy if you're willing to spend ridiculously amounts of money). The only downside is I can't listen to individual songs but if I really want to spend the time I could find youtube videos of individual songs and convert them. Luckily, I usually listen to whole albums anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeTue Jun 23, 2020 12:32 am

DallasBlack wrote:
Gilbert wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
It happens a lot, I've learned to accept (haha) it. When a band takes from another band is a different issue though, like Megadeth's Kingmaker.

Check out the verse in this tune and tell me what you hear:



Awesome album but I can't deny that bugs me.

Man, i really need to buy this album. Can't seem to find it anywhere.

I had to find a youtube video of the full album and convert it into an MP3. I've done it with many long OOP albums that you can't find digital or hard copies of (or ones where you can't find the digital copy but you can get the hard copy if you're willing to spend ridiculously amounts of money). The only downside is I can't listen to individual songs but if I really want to spend the time I could find youtube videos of individual songs and convert them. Luckily, I usually listen to whole albums anyways.

Years ago, i held this album in my hands at a record shop in France before putting it back on the shelves. No clue why, to be honest.

Of course, when i went back the next day, it was gone angry.
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeWed Jun 24, 2020 3:29 am

I remember John Fogerty being sued by his former manager for ripping off his own song. CCR "Run Though The Jungle" sounded a lot like "Old Man Down The Road"

Sued for reworking one of his own songs.  Settled out of court.

John hated Saul, He scewed
Band out of a fortune.

So John wrote a song about him. Not a great song but lyrics say it all. Interesting  video..

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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 25, 2020 9:27 pm

Glower wrote:


Here’s a band from Greece. 4 song EP.
Thanks for posting this. It's awesome and hilarious at the same time. I've listened to it multiple times today already.

You wanted Metal..And we deliver!
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PostSubject: Re: Accept rips off....Accept?   Accept rips off....Accept? Icon_minitimeFri Jun 26, 2020 9:15 am

I have to say, White Tower ( White Power ? ) - the first song -
it has a Scorpions guitar sound - close to the Love Sting studio album.
That alone - is damn impressive.
Reminds me of Bad Boys Running Wild and Big City Nights....
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