Pink Floyd

detuned wrote:

I also love the Barrett stuff, it took me awhile to "get it"...but once you do it's some deliriously brilliant music. His sense of rhythm/timing in his lyrics is completely unique.

Plus "Interstellar Overdrive" is basically a heavy metal/free jazz tune...which is a nice combination.

Hmmm, I'll have to give that song another try when I get home since I didn't put the Pink Barrett albums on my iPod.

David Gilmour performing Syd Barrett's Terrapin:

I love the entire Pink Floyd era, but like Spec, when I was younger I was on the Roger Waters side of the fence rather the David Gilmour side, and I always felt that Roger Waters solo album 'Amused to Death' was unfairly overlooked album, and lyrically is still revelant today, which is really sad commentary not on Waters but on the state of the world.

I just started reading Nick Mason's autobiography 'Inside Out: A Personal History of Pink Floyd' and if you are Pink Floyd fan I would highly recommend it, it is very funny and honest book. Also it is nice to see a book where the writer (in this case a bandmate and friend) actually talk about Syd Barret like he was an actual human being instead just a causality.

I might have to go pick me up that book

Pink Floyd are suing EMI and its private equity firm owners Terra Firma, claiming that the label has miscalculated their royalty payments. According to The Guardian, the legal action likely occurred during the band’s negotiations over payments that occur every three years. The exact terms of the lawsuit weren’t revealed, and both EMI and Pink Floyd declined to comment on the case. However, since only the Beatles have outsold Pink Floyd’s back catalog over the past 25 years, this case may be over millions in lost royalties. The band’s Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall are among the best-selling albums of all time. (Read about both Dark Side and The Wall in our Greatest Albums of All Time.)
Pink Floyd have been with the label since 1967, though in the last few years EMI has alienated a number of its most high-profile artists. Radiohead ditched EMI after re-negotiations failed, opting to self-release In Rainbows. Paul McCartney departed after 45 years to link up with Starbucks’ then-emerging HearMusic for 2007’s Memory Almost Full, saying EMI had become “boring” and “Everybody at EMI had become part of the furniture. I’d be a couch; Coldplay are an armchair.” The Rolling Stones also took their back catalog and left EMI’s Virgin Records, signing with Universal in July 2008. The Stones released a statement when news of their new deal broke, saying, “Universal are forward thinking, creative and hands-on music people.”
Terra Firma bought EMI in May 2007, and in early 2008 CEO Guy Hands told Rolling Stone he would overhaul the company by cutting costs, consolidating departments and courting corporate sponsors to put their brand on specific artists’ music.

....hmmmm...I think the Sex Pistols were correct!

"Money, its a crime."

the sentinel wrote:

"Money, its a crime."

I'm officially sick of that song. All of the rock stations out here play it every hour practically.

Schbopo wrote:

the sentinel wrote:

"Money, its a crime."

I'm officially sick of that song. All of the rock stations out here play it every hour practically.

I kind of like the re-arrangement that Gilmour did for the Delicate Sound Of Thunder concert, gave it a fresh perspective and reduced the "over-played" factor.

But hey...how many hit singles in history were written in 7/4 time?

detuned wrote:

....hmmmm...I think the Sex Pistols were correct!

They only did it cause of fame! EMI!

I've been reading Inside Out and listening to some of the older Floyd albums, and I've really gained a greater respect for the band as well as Syd Barret.

Has anyone else seen "Which One's Pink?" on VH-1 classic? It a British made (?) documentary on the band which I found facinating. It covers them from humble beginnings right up to the end with Richard Wright's death in Sept. Syd's story is so sad. I only have 3 Floyd albums, but watcing that doc makes me want to invest in some more.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Syd's story is so sad.

Is it? I never really understood the fascination with him. He had a mental illness. I suppose that's sad, but I feel like I'm missing something because I think his work with Floyd is pretty boring and weird solely for weird's sake.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Has anyone else seen "Which One's Pink?" on VH-1 classic? It a British made (?) documentary on the band which I found facinating. It covers them from humble beginnings right up to the end with Richard Wright's death in Sept. Syd's story is so sad. I only have 3 Floyd albums, but watcing that doc makes me want to invest in some more.

I loved it, best doc I have ever seen on Pink Floyd, Syd's story is very sad, such a talented songwriter.

SpectreFate wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Syd's story is so sad.

Is it? I never really understood the fascination with him. He had a mental illness. I suppose that's sad, but I feel like I'm missing something because I think his work with Floyd is pretty boring and weird solely for weird's sake.

I don't think he was weird for weirdness sake that would be Marilyn Manson, he was a very talented individual and I think the songs he wrote at times were almost childlike and innocent, and at same the songs had these strange and somewhat strange arrangements. IMO not as talented songwriter as Roger Waters but very unique and special.

SpectreFate wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Syd's story is so sad.

Is it? I never really understood the fascination with him. He had a mental illness. I suppose that's sad, but I feel like I'm missing something because I think his work with Floyd is pretty boring and weird solely for weird's sake.

The part I found particulary sad was the story that Syd, years after being out of the band, showed up at the studio the day the band was recording parts of Wish You Were Here and they didn't recognize him. He had gained weight and shaved off all his hair, including his eyebrows. It supposedly brought Roger Waters to tears to see an old friend and bandmate like that.

I'm not up on my Floyd history as most of the guys here, but I don't see him being weird for weirdness sake. I think he was mentally ill and the drugs just made the problems worse. I can't comment on his musical contributions though.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Has anyone else seen "Which One's Pink?" on VH-1 classic? It a British made (?) documentary on the band which I found fascinating. It covers them from humble beginnings right up to the end with Richard Wright's death in Sept. Syd's story is so sad. I only have 3 Floyd albums, but watching that doc makes me want to invest in some more.

That is one of the better documentaries that I've seen.

SpectreFate wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Syd's story is so sad.

Is it? I never really understood the fascination with him. He had a mental illness. I suppose that's sad, but I feel like I'm missing something because I think his work with Floyd is pretty boring and weird solely for weird's sake.

Hey Spec have your heard the Syd era singles from around the time of Piper. Alot more accessible then Piper........psych pop songs to compete with the Beatles!



Weirdly Roger Waters is lip syncing along to Syd's voice in the below video, apparently Syd refused to lip sync so Roger did it......








The early singles (both a&b sides) are compiled on some handy comps. The one i've got is 1967/The First 3 Singles (1997), but there is also one called The Early Singles as well.

That is actually what happened rattpoison, Syd would be lip syncing perfectly during rehearsals and when ever they were ready to start rolling the film he would just stare into the camera. As a matter fact Roger Waters recounts this story in the doc Metalguy mentioned, weird to see the real footage.

Haven't seen the "Which One's Pink?" documentary that MG71 mentioned above but I just caught a little bit of another Floyd doc called "The Barrett era" on VH1 Classic. Unfortunately the tail end of it coincided with the young'un's bed time so I missed the last half hour or so of it. Interesting stuff, will have to try and catch it again sometime.

I did get a kick out of this one off of PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN... never heard this one before to my knowledge.



By the way, it occurred to me while watching the recent interviews with Floyd members in this show that nowadays Roger Waters looks a lot like Richard Gere.

SpectreFate wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Syd's story is so sad.

Is it? I never really understood the fascination with him. He had a mental illness. I suppose that's sad, but I feel like I'm missing something because I think his work with Floyd is pretty boring and weird solely for weird's sake.

I concur

Was just listening to The Final Cut the other day, what a depressing journey that record is. I still consider it to be a Roger Waters solo album, but it's a damn good one.

detuned wrote:

Was just listening to The Final Cut the other day, what a depressing journey that record is. I still consider it to be a Roger Waters solo album, but it's a damn good one.

I just picked that one up. One minor complaint I have about it is the sound levels, both in the song-structures and probably the overall mastering. I have the re-mastered version, but when I'm listening to it, I need to crank the volume to hear the "quiet" parts of the song, then the "loud" parts kick in and it's blowing out the speakers. This is probably a good album to listen to with big, comfy, head phones in order to hear all the layers, but listening in a car or at work is a bit of a pain.

I do like the fact that I've never heard a single one of these songs before in my life. No over-played "hits" to be found on The Final Cut. Were there any singles released from this album?

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I need to crank the volume to hear the "quiet" parts of the song, then the "loud" parts kick in and it's blowing out the speakers. This is probably a good album to listen to with big, comfy, head phones in order to hear all the layers, but listening in a car or at work is a bit of a pain.

The album always sounded that way, back before "dynamics" became a four letter word. Nowadays all the quiet parts have to be the same volume as the loud parts...which reduces the amount of drama in the recording. The Final Cut uses those loud instrumental sections as "cathartic release" to break up the quiet, meditative stance of the verse sections.

I'm not sure if they released any singles or not, the only song I ever heard on the radio was "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert".