Subject: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:51 am
The follow up to Hellblade is almost here!
MetalFRO Metal master
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:33 am
Sounds awesome, can't wait to hear the final product!
Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:10 am
Good news, they've killed it lately.
exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:59 pm
Dark Horseman wrote:
Good news, they've killed it lately.
yep. Looking forward to this one.
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thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:21 pm
The samples sound better than Hell Blade, which was a huge let down in my book
kmorg Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:36 pm
Hell Blade is aweome!
I already ordered Desperate Night
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exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:37 pm
I think these samples are really rockin. I thought Hellblade was too plodding for my tastes - this seems to be more straight ahead faster paced music.
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mikeinfla Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:01 am
It's just been announced that Josh Kramer is leaving Saint due to other commitments. From Richard Lynch:
It looks like I’ll be able to start sending out mp3 files Saturday!!!! On the song Desperate Night we are introducing our new singer Brian Miller. it’s my hope that you will welcome him into the fold. As for Josh he has moved away and that makes it next to impossible to do things like music videos, photo shoots, etc. We haven’t parted ways completely as he has agreed to do live performances when possible. He and I talk it over and he completely agrees that it the best way for Saint to continue producing CD’s. The good news is that he did most of the vocals on this project.
Rich
Go to 2:56 into the clip to hear Brian on vocals. 3:44 he screams
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:24 am
I look forward to hearing the CD when it comes out.
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Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:29 pm
What does moving away have to do with it? It's not like they have to record in the same room at the same time. Shoot, groups record albums on different continents now.
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:14 pm
Dark Horseman wrote:
What does moving away have to do with it? It's not like they have to record in the same room at the same time. Shoot, groups record albums on different continents now.
Yes, but it's much more cohesive to be able to practice together, write songs together, etc. It's much more difficult to write and record long distance, especially with no budget whatsoever to do it with.
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kethdredd Metal master
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:46 pm
New singer, sounds pretty good to me.
exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:59 pm
i am bummed Josh has left. He is a big part of the saint sound to me...
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:30 pm
I am too but i'll give the new guy a chance.
kmorg Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:10 pm
They tried without Josh before.... It was no success.
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exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:37 pm
kmorg wrote:
They tried without Josh before.... It was no success.
yeah - Crime Scene Earth 1.0 was not nearly as good as 2.0
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:24 am
1."Crusified" is the opening track. Reminds me of "In The Night" from "Time's End". Good opening track. Also reminds me of a song from "The Revealtion" but I can't pin-point it right now.
2. The Key. Featuring Mr. Lynch on vocals. This is a very good song and his voice fits it. I see Saint kind of like Kiss in the vocal dept. Rich has a style much like Gene Simmons and when done right the songs he is featured on are good. In comparison of his vocalization, I prefer Rich's version of "The Judas In Me" from Crime Scene Earth. I just feel his voice fits that song better, as does this one. I believe JOSH is on backing vocals on this one. I love the guitar "crunch" on this one at 2:15 into the song. This is the only track to feature Rich on lead vocals and he shows he is capable on this one
3. End Of The World. Classic Saint topic here. Judgement Day is here! Cool sound effects at 1:31
4. Let It Rock. The only ballad... HAHAHA Got ya, this one will kick your teeth in at 10 seconds into it! Turn it up loud, but not too loud. It has a low intro, very cool effect on the start of the song like it is being played thru a phone. So far my favorite song on this release. Outstanding backing vocals from Rich. The bass tone is awesome too (and the bass sounds better on this album than any other Saint release, it is much fuller than in the past). Great musical breakdown around 1:30 with a 70's feel on the "back" guitar and another good crunching sound. LET IT ROCK!
5. The Frey. "Alright, last time, here we go!" We get classic JOSH SCREAMS on this one. Great guitar work from Herr Schenkerr at about a minute into it.
6. Inside Out. What else can I say? Another tune in Classic Saint style. Plods a bit but there's nothing wrong with plodding. Sounds like it would fit on Hellblade.
7. Desperate Night. Featuring Brian on vocals with a classic Saint SCREAM at the start of the song. Let me ask you this. If they never told us Josh wasn't on this song would you know the difference? You might but it would really be hard to tell. He shows he is a capable vocalist on this one and I look forward to more songs with Brian singing. Let's just hope Josh is involved at some capacity on the next release. I think it would be cool to have them sing together and both be featured on the next release. This one "plods" too. Awesome guitar solo from Jerry again on this one. GREAT SCREAMING at 3:54. Brian is a very good vocalist and on this song he really shines.
8. Zombie. I like to call this "Zombie Shuffle". I think this would be a great song for AMC to use for "The Walking Dead". It has very creepy backing vocals and this is a good heavy song. Josh's vocals here remind me of Judas Priest, especially something from "Sad Wings Of Destiny". Sounds a lot like the vocal delivery of "The Ripper" (studio version) by Priest. With Zombie love being at an all time high right now this would be great used in a movie or Walking Dead. Love the evil laughs on it.
9. Judgement. Starts with a heartbeat and gun shots. Another good bass tone from Rich on this one. Another great Saint classic theme, "Come Lord Jesus". Judegement is here!
10. To Live Forever. MUCH better than the original from "The Perfect Life" which featured Tim Lamberson on vocals and a drum machine. Guitars are better on this one and we have real drums. Honestly, I am not all familiar with the original as I have only heard it a handful of times as I don't play The Perfect Life very much. Jerry shows he's a capable guitarist in replacing Dee (but we already knew that anyway).
11. Escape From The Fire! Very heavy track and the albums closer. Fast, heavy, just the way I like it. Rich & Josh on vocals. Great screams from Josh again. How does he do it after all these years? Sounds like another track in the vain of Hellblade. Burn forever and ever you'll burn! This is a great ending track.
Over all an excellent release and I think it DOES top Hellblade. I'm not saying that because it is a new release, I just think the songs on this one are a bit stronger than Hellblade. Definitely something classic fans will want to get. SAINT has consistantly delivered great releases since coming back with "In The Battle". There are no other classic bands that have done this, not even Stryper. No slam on them at all but we've had 3 releases from them, one being a cover album and the next one will be re-records. That's fine but I would rather have new material and that has what Saint has done with all of their releases since 2004. To Live Forever IS a re-record but it also seems new because it is different from the original. The original seems more of a demo (and Im gonna pull that one out and listen to it again and compare because I just don't remember much about The Perfect Life.
Here we go again with another drummer but Jared is ON IT. How does he get so much sound out of such a small drum kit (if you look at his pics he has a small drum set and this album makes it feel like it's one of those huge kits from the 80's that every drummer from every metal band used to have). Larry London was excellent, I really liked him on drums and Bill Brost was good on the last release but Jared fits in nicely. I am also glad they used him for mixing as he seems to have an ear for this. I think it may be his behind the scenes work that makes this one sound as good as it does. He's "the wizard behind the curtain".
kmorg Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:23 pm
Good rundown, mikeinfla!
I listened to the album at work today, and it features several killer tracks!
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mikeinfla Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:26 pm
Yeah, it's a great release and I think Brian will do just fine on vocals. If you listen to the samples (around 2:56) you'll hear him sing and he sounds alot like Josh. His vocal range will definitely fit the band. Not a bad song on this release.
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Subject: Re: Saint - Desperate Night samples posted Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:03 pm
I'll wait for more comprehensive samples before I'm buying this. Hell Blade hasn't really aged well for me.
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