Album-VS-Album 1990 (Part 2)

Never heard the Celtic Frost album, but regardless, I can't go against Painkiller

Painkiller, easily.

Easily Painkiller for me.

It’s Painkiller! No contest.

It’s one of my favorite albums and my definition of what a heavy metal album is.

PAINKILLER

Painkiller

Painkiller

Weird comparison.

IMHDO) Painkiller is one of Priest's most forced & contrived albums EVER.
Lots of people dig it (cool with me)

Celtic Frost did something different than before to varying degrees, like usual. 
Thus, my vote.

James B. wrote:

IMHDO) Painkiller is one of Priest's most forced & contrived albums EVER.
Lots of people dig it (cool with me)

Celtic Frost did something different than before to varying degrees, like usual. 
Thus, my vote.

I think they were trying to stay relevant in the thrash era. And they did a damn good job! Most dinosaur bands just stay in their lane…
I applaud Priest’s effort to progress as musicians. In what way do they sound forced? I’d say Turbo was more out of their element. It was like ZZ Top meets corporate hair metal.

Troublezone wrote:

James B. wrote:

IMHDO) Painkiller is one of Priest's most forced & contrived albums EVER.
Lots of people dig it (cool with me)

Celtic Frost did something different than before to varying degrees, like usual. 
Thus, my vote.

I think they were trying to stay relevant in the thrash era. And they did a damn good job! Most dinosaur bands just stay in their lane…
I applaud Priest’s effort to progress as musicians. In what way do they sound forced? I’d say Turbo was more out of their element. It was like ZZ Top meets corporate hair metal.

 
To your first point: "trying to stay relevant in the thrash era". Wasn't that what they tried to do with both "Turbo" & Ram It Down". Ya know, stay relevant to a current trend? Just "Painkiller" happened to fit right up your alley. As opposed to the previous two?

Your point: "In what way do they sound forced"? When was Priest ever  so over the top on an entire album.? Double kick out the wazoo... Super high screams everywhere, and twin shred galore. This "Better, Stronger, Faster" approach appeared to break them apart. That is generally the outcome of forcing something.  If everything clicked and gelled, the band sticks together. They did not.

As far as ZZ Top goes, (IMHDO) they took what they did, (blues based hard rock) and tweaked it. Something kind of new, I suppose? 
IMHDO) Priest went from kinda/sorta innovators in the 70's to trend followers between 1980 & 1990.  SFV and parts of DOTF, the exception.
We have Kraft Singles American processed cheese with "British Steel" in 80. 1990 is total Cheeze Wizz with "Painkiller".

James B. wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

James B. wrote:

IMHDO) Painkiller is one of Priest's most forced & contrived albums EVER.
Lots of people dig it (cool with me)

Celtic Frost did something different than before to varying degrees, like usual. 
Thus, my vote.

I think they were trying to stay relevant in the thrash era. And they did a damn good job! Most dinosaur bands just stay in their lane…
I applaud Priest’s effort to progress as musicians. In what way do they sound forced? I’d say Turbo was more out of their element. It was like ZZ Top meets corporate hair metal.

 
To your first point: "trying to stay relevant in the thrash era". Wasn't that what they tried to do with both "Turbo" & Ram It Down". Ya know, stay relevant to a current trend? Just "Painkiller" happened to fit right up your alley. As opposed to the previous two?

Your point: "In what way do they sound forced"? When was Priest ever  so over the top on an entire album.? Double kick out the wazoo... Super high screams everywhere, and twin shred galore. This "Better, Stronger, Faster" approach appeared to break them apart. That is generally the outcome of forcing something.  If everything clicked and gelled, the band sticks together. They did not.

As far as ZZ Top goes, (IMHDO) they took what they did, (blues based hard rock) and tweaked it. Something kind of new, I suppose? 
IMHDO) Priest went from kinda/sorta innovators in the 70's to trend followers between 1980 & 1990.  SFV and parts of DOTF, the exception.
We have Kraft Singles American processed cheese with "British Steel" in 80. 1990 is total Cheeze Wizz with "Painkiller".

I was thinking more along the lines of ZZ Top’s Eliminator synth. It was going more in dance music direction than their traditional headbanging tunes.

Painkiller. Not even close.

James B. wrote:

IMHDO) Painkiller is one of Priest's most forced & contrived albums EVER.
Lots of people dig it (cool with me)

This X whatever number you want to enter. I don't dislike Painkiller, but it was the most album forced next to that of Turbo. Priest were the trendsetters, but from 1986-1990 they were sort of followers and jumping on the latest trend. Though I'm a recent convert to Celtic Frost and as much as I like this Frost album, I probably would go with "Painkiller", due to the fact that I've been listening to it since its release. Having said that, I might change my mind tomorrow on this one.