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 | Subject: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:54 am | |
| Now, I like the tracks, but I hate that they're "hidden." I always have. I like to play my music on shuffle; it's how I've always played it. Even when I'm playing a CD, I usually hit shuffle. I like being surprised, so to speak (though you can't quite be surprised when you know every song). Anyway, it alway sucks when a song ends and another never begins to play...unless you wait 20 frickin' minutes! What comes after hate? Because I hated them before, but now it's worse. I have this 1TB external drive and I've been ripping my CDs to it. I swear, EVERY frickin' CD has a hidden track. So I have to cut out the silence, split the songs. It's a pain in the balls. What is the purpose of a hidden track when it's not hidden? A hidden track is the intro instrumental before the first track on 311s Transistor. That's hidden. You never see it unless you know it's there. And you can't rip it. But one song after 47 15-second songs of silence? Pfffft! Piss on that. Stupid bands.
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Troublezone Disciple of Doom

Number of posts: 6301 Age: 33 Registration date: 2007-01-29
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:34 am | |
| I like them as long as it's not a long wait. |
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SAHB Healer Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 2243 Age: 51 Registration date: 2007-02-06
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:40 am | |
| That's my number one pet peeve in music. It was such a fad in the 90's, everybody had to do it. Thankfully it seems to have receded somewhat since. It does screw up random playing. Often when I get a new CD and I'm on the fence about it, a hidden track is what ends up making up my mind for me as to whether it goes on the playlist or the shelf. And all the worse when the "track" ends up being some kind of joke or random noise. I never forgive a band for making me wait 10 minutes just so they can have a joke on my time.  I also don't care for "bonus" tracks (hidden or not)that end up being some scratchy old live one mic recordings that one of the band members found in a shoebox in their basement or something. |
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rattpoison Metal is in my blood


Number of posts: 2548 Age: 22 Registration date: 2007-05-23
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:42 am | |
| [quote="SAHB Healer" I also don't care for "bonus" tracks (hidden or not)that end up being some scratchy old live one mic recordings that one of the band members found in a shoebox in their basement or something.[/quote] Yeah there a blessing and a curse......it seems every reissue has to have bonus tracks. Sometimes their good but alot just didn't need to be heard. _________________ "...Like a canary in the underground - singing through the gas..."
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:49 am | |
| I love any sort of extra tracks. I just don't know why they have to be a chore to hear. But I'm all for bonus tracks. Maybe some aren't the greatest, but I still like to hear them. If I don't like them, so what? |
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mc666 4ssh(*)le

Number of posts: 5535 Age: 31 Registration date: 2007-01-21
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stevegarveyfan Metal graduate


Number of posts: 398 Age: 36 Registration date: 2007-11-10
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:24 am | |
| | Eyesore wrote: | | What is the purpose of a hidden track when it's not hidden? A hidden track is the intro instrumental before the first track on 311s Transistor. That's hidden. You never see it unless you know it's there. And you can't rip it. But one song after 47 15-second songs of silence? Pfffft! Piss on that. Stupid bands. |
You're talking about Galactic Cowboys Space in Your Face, huh? |
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SAHB Healer Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 2243 Age: 51 Registration date: 2007-02-06
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:30 am | |
| | Eyesore wrote: | | I love any sort of extra tracks. I just don't know why they have to be a chore to hear. But I'm all for bonus tracks. Maybe some aren't the greatest, but I still like to hear them. If I don't like them, so what? |
If they have decent sound quality they are a bonus, but a lot of these old bands have stuff off 30 year old cassettes that are really muffled and crappy sounding. I say leave that stuff for the fan club issues. |
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SAHB Healer Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 2243 Age: 51 Registration date: 2007-02-06
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:33 am | |
| Another thing I didn't like was the way Kyuss "Sky Valley" was recorded in blocs of three songs to a track. I can't find the song I'm looking for. It is like the FF cassette days. |
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detuned 21st Century Schizoid Man


Number of posts: 6026 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:57 pm | |
| | SAHB Healer wrote: | | Another thing I didn't like was the way Kyuss "Sky Valley" was recorded in blocs of three songs to a track. I can't find the song I'm looking for. It is like the FF cassette days. |
The band wanted it to be 1 track only, the record company "convinced" them to split it into 3 song suites. There is a note inside the sleeve that says "listen without distraction" or something like that, so they wanted people to listen to the entire record. yeah, it's still kind of stupid...I cut up my own copy of this one years ago. |
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Phoenix Reign Drummer Metal is in my blood


Number of posts: 3249 Age: 30 Registration date: 2007-08-31
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:13 pm | |
| Theres a Overkill album that does this too maybe WFO I forget but it skips through different tracks til it gets to 99 and then the song isnt even worth the wait. Its just them goofing around. _________________ "Hey, I just got ran over by a car, and I'm bleeding in the middle of the road...I better post this on my Facebook or Twitter, just in case someone happens to be on..." -Unknown
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Smindas Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 1785 Age: 20 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:15 pm | |
| A lot of versions (if not all) of Savatage's Streets have some songs coupled together on one track. It's very annoying, sometimes I just want to listen to 'Sammy & Tex' without having to endure 'You're Alive', but skipping is a surprisingly big hassle. |
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Fat Freddy Lord of all PBR's

Number of posts: 11842 Age: 39 Registration date: 2007-02-21
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scottmitchell74 Jada Pinkett Smith's Cabana Boy

Number of posts: 6323 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:35 pm | |
| I hate them too, and act as if they don't exist. _________________ I'm warning you. I'll be forced to Thrash you!  |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:52 pm | |
| | stevegarveyfan wrote: | | Eyesore wrote: | | What is the purpose of a hidden track when it's not hidden? A hidden track is the intro instrumental before the first track on 311s Transistor. That's hidden. You never see it unless you know it's there. And you can't rip it. But one song after 47 15-second songs of silence? Pfffft! Piss on that. Stupid bands. |
You're talking about Galactic Cowboys Space in Your Face, huh? |
Already split that one ages ago. Off the top of my head, I'm talking about Tool's Undertow, Primus's Anti-Pop, Danzig's Thrall-Demonsweatlive, Sarah McLachlan's Fumbling Towards Ecstasy, Reveille's Laced, and countless others. |
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detuned 21st Century Schizoid Man


Number of posts: 6026 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:58 pm | |
| | Eyesore wrote: | | Sarah McLachlan's Fumbling Towards Ecstasy |
The hidden track on that disc is the best song on the album...shame to hide it. |
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Smindas Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 1785 Age: 20 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:34 pm | |
| 'Look At Your Game Girl' on GN'R's "The Spaghetti Incident? is another hidden track. I guess they hid it due to the Charles Manson connotations, but it's annoying if I want to listen to it that I need to go through 'I Don't Care About You' (which is a fantastic song, but they're for two very different moods). |
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DeathCult Master Of The Crotch Grab

Number of posts: 4984 Age: 35 Registration date: 2007-12-18
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:22 pm | |
| | Smindas wrote: | | 'Look At Your Game Girl' on GN'R's "The Spaghetti Incident? is another hidden track. I guess they hid it due to the Charles Manson connotations, but it's annoying if I want to listen to it that I need to go through 'I Don't Care About You' (which is a fantastic song, but they're for two very different moods). |
I have Charles' original version, didnt much care for the G n' R one, to me it seemed like a last ditch attempt to do something controversial EDIT: If you like I Don't Care About You that much Smindas, you should really check out the original on Fear's The Record, GREAT punk album. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:14 pm | |
| | detuned wrote: | | Eyesore wrote: | | Sarah McLachlan's Fumbling Towards Ecstasy |
The hidden track on that disc is the best song on the album...shame to hide it. |
It's a great version of that song, sure, but outside of the sorta goofy "Ice Cream," that entire album is brilliant. |
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Smindas Heart of Metal


Number of posts: 1785 Age: 20 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:57 pm | |
| | DeathCult wrote: | | Smindas wrote: | | 'Look At Your Game Girl' on GN'R's "The Spaghetti Incident? is another hidden track. I guess they hid it due to the Charles Manson connotations, but it's annoying if I want to listen to it that I need to go through 'I Don't Care About You' (which is a fantastic song, but they're for two very different moods). |
I have Charles' original version, didnt much care for the G n' R one, to me it seemed like a last ditch attempt to do something controversial EDIT: If you like I Don't Care About You that much Smindas, you should really check out the original on Fear's The Record, GREAT punk album. |
Yeah, I was definitely going to look in to picking up some Fear as I've always loved Lee Ving's vocals on the MD.45 CD as well. Hearing 'I Don't Care About You' sealed my interest, really. |
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sam Metal is in my blood


Number of posts: 3047 Age: 20 Registration date: 2008-02-12
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:03 am | |
| Have to agree with you guys that hidden tracks blow balls. why not just add them as an unlisted track? gets the same effect without the annoyance. |
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Required Fields Metal is Forever


Number of posts: 6279 Age: 24 Registration date: 2007-01-31
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:39 am | |
| | Phoenix Reign Drummer wrote: | | Theres a Overkill album that does this too maybe WFO I forget but it skips through different tracks til it gets to 99 and then the song isnt even worth the wait. Its just them goofing around. |
Actually, it's track 98. Tracks 12-97 are three seconds of silence, and then after about five and a half minutes of silence, we get a medley of covers. Track 99 is also three seconds of silence. |
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MetalRob331 Metal is in my blood


Number of posts: 2907 Age: 28 Registration date: 2007-07-22
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:55 am | |
| There are some awesome hidden tracks like on Flaw's Inner Strength cd and Anthrax's Volume 8 and that is my fav Anthrax song from there whole catalog |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:46 pm | |
| | MetalRob331 wrote: | | There are some awesome hidden tracks like on Flaw's Inner Strength |
Indeed. The piano version is killer! But again, that song should just be the next song, separate track, no 20 minutes of silence, just don't list it. It's a pain to get to that song, unless you rip it, split it, and cut out the silence. |
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detuned 21st Century Schizoid Man


Number of posts: 6026 Age: 39 Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: You Know What I Hate? Hidden Tracks! Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:01 pm | |
| The aforementioned Galactic Cowboys disc is the worst offender in my book. When I bought my first CD burner I tested it out by ripping and re-burning Space In Your Face. |
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